Frustrated and disappointed

[SlashZaku]

Are you sure it's not your sister's boyfriend confusing the terms 'multiplatform' (available on multiple platforms) and 'cross-platform' (being able to play with other players on another platform not the same as the one you're on)? That sounds like this is the case.

To be honest, I have never seen a cross-platform work ever. Maybe in some of the multiplayer shooters where there isn't much to join up but a single small map, but DCUO was unable to get it to function nor was CCP when they announced their new tie in ground game to EVE was going to function this way, it never really has. So if you see MMO and Cross platform, don't buy it unless your friends all play it with the same hardware Console or PC.

Um, Dust 514 is still currently in Beta. Their first 'full' release is coming ~May 6th so it's kind of early to say they failed on the EVE/Dust integration just yet.

[Rah]

Caveat emptor is the defense for all unethical sales practices. Just because something is legal doesn't make it right. It's a way for businesses to lose customers permanently. I like Trion, and actually find the game pretty enjoyable, but the fact remains I would not have made the purchase had I not been told by a third party I could play it with console using family and friends.

The problem that exists is that some of the public believes this game is cross platform - that is the servers host the communications to clients on any of the different platforms, so that people with pc can play with people with consoles, not that it is multi-platform with a server for each platform maintained, segregated, and operating independently of each other. I don't really believe that Trion would want an unscrupulous image, so I am trying to help make someone aware that they need to put a warning label on purchases, and make public the situation and intent to cross platform, whether it is dead in the water, silenced by court order, or they are actually doing something about it.

I haven't purchased an MMO since WoW vanilla release that I didn't have friends to play with. For me, that's my whole style of playing an MMO - having a few friends to play with going in, and making more along the way, not having to make all new friends from scratch, dealing with so many unknowns and not having any constants. I purchased it under the impression of another player that I could play with them across the platform gap. I was the first in my sister's circle of people invited to buy and actually discover, no, I can't find you in game, and then do the whole internet search, "uh guys? It's not cross platform. Yeah, there are other people upset about it, too." I'm sure several other people purchased the game under the same false impression.

So I'm not trying to get a refund, I'm not trying to stir up hate, I'm not blaming Trion for lying to me. But I am trying to create an awareness that a false impression exists that specifically profits them, and they have an ethical obligation to clear up the misrepresentation.

[Radz]

There is nothing illegal or even wrong happening here. THAT's the point people are generally trying to make.

[Sledgehammer70]

My sister and her boyfriend were playing this and he was under the impression it was cross platform, so I bought the game to play with them. Now I've purchased a game that I can't play with the people who I bought the game to play with. I did not read the specifics, I just bought it on steam at his word that it was cross platform. Though I probably do not have a legal claim, this is a problem.

Enough confusion exists about this game's being cross platformed that it is unethical to not clearly indicate up front at the time of purchase that it is not cross platformed play, and what the company's plans are, if any, to ever work toward that end. Sales are being made on third party misrepresentations, and while I applauded Trion for their work in Rift, and perhaps the game of Defiance itself, this unethical profiteering is enough to make me lose all respect for Trion as a company.

We support cross platforms as in the game is available on Xbox 360, PS3 and PC. But we do not support cross platform play. We have been very open about this across the board.

Defiance will never allow PC users to play with Xbox or PS3 users etc... This isn't a decision we have put in place, this is a policy that both Microsoft and Sony have in place.

[Kkaos Reinz]

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Aside from their initial intentions of making it cross-platform they said that it wouldn't be. A quick Google search would tell you that it isn't cross platform.

Agreed, I was simply replying to the post that stated they "never" said it.

[Oster]

My sister and her boyfriend were playing this and he was under the impression it was cross platform, so I bought the game to play with them. Now I've purchased a game that I can't play with the people who I bought the game to play with. I did not read the specifics, I just bought it on steam at his word that it was cross platform. Though I probably do not have a legal claim, this is a problem.

Enough confusion exists about this game's being cross platformed that it is unethical to not clearly indicate up front at the time of purchase that it is not cross platformed play, and what the company's plans are, if any, to ever work toward that end. Sales are being made on third party misrepresentations, and while I applauded Trion for their work in Rift, and perhaps the game of Defiance itself, this unethical profiteering is enough to make me lose all respect for Trion as a company.

Maybe confusion exists for you, but no offense, I'm pretty sure most other people took 10 seconds to go google it and find out before spending their money on it. They never claimed the servers were cross-platform or that it would ever be for sure after going live, just that the alpha/beta servers ran with all three platforms playing together.

Don't like the fact that it's not cross-platform? Take it up with Microsoft, they're the reason it's not, not Trion.

[Kkaos Reinz]

There is nothing illegal or even wrong happening here. THAT's the point people are generally trying to make.

Agreed, definitely not Trion's fault. This anti-cross platform agenda has been an issue for a long time between Sony and Xbox. However, seeing as there's now a game that organically grows with a tv show, hey... anything is possible... in another decade or three

[Todeswulf]

speaking about that...I'm not getting why Trion didn't at least make PC and Xbox cross platform, I understand about the whole Sony/MS war and that they hates each others forever my precious, but Square easily did the cross platform for FFXI, also console games tend to get played and traded or put on the shelf to collect dust, I think the longevity of the game for Xbox players would have been greatly increased.

[Colteran]

Another case of not doing your research before hand. Bad consumerism 101. Sorry, but this this on your head, not Trion's.

[lPATT]

i am laughing , i am sorry to laugh at your issue but i am still gonna laugh at it xD