Frustrated and disappointed

[Superhero]

oh man i remember playing quake arena on my PC and demolishing all those virgins on the Dreamcast (Console Kiddie)

Slow as hell, i for-one would love to see 360/ps3 kiddies in PVP easy kill is an easy Kill.

[Obsidian]

My sister and her boyfriend were playing this and he was under the impression it was cross platform, so I bought the game to play with them. Now I've purchased a game that I can't play with the people who I bought the game to play with. I did not read the specifics, I just bought it on steam at his word that it was cross platform. Though I probably do not have a legal claim, this is a problem.

Enough confusion exists about this game's being cross platformed that it is unethical to not clearly indicate up front at the time of purchase that it is not cross platformed play, and what the company's plans are, if any, to ever work toward that end. Sales are being made on third party misrepresentations, and while I applauded Trion for their work in Rift, and perhaps the game of Defiance itself, this unethical profiteering is enough to make me lose all respect for Trion as a company.

This is not trions fault. This is xbox vs ps3 fights from their parent companies. They would insta ban and revoke rights to create games for their consoles if there was any cross console game. Thank them. Also that has been the case since the first xbox console. This is not new information.

[Random]

My sister and her boyfriend were playing this and he was under the impression it was cross platform, so I bought the game to play with them. Now I've purchased a game that I can't play with the people who I bought the game to play with. I did not read the specifics, I just bought it on steam at his word that it was cross platform. Though I probably do not have a legal claim, this is a problem.

Enough confusion exists about this game's being cross platformed that it is unethical to not clearly indicate up front at the time of purchase that it is not cross platformed play, and what the company's plans are, if any, to ever work toward that end. Sales are being made on third party misrepresentations, and while I applauded Trion for their work in Rift, and perhaps the game of Defiance itself, this unethical profiteering is enough to make me lose all respect for Trion as a company.

I will assume you are joking.

As you just admitted you were a foolish buyer. You heard from a third party source it may be cross platform based on old information long ago made completely obsolete and this is unethical from Trion?

Seriously?

Type into google "Is Defiance Cross Platform 2013".

It is unethical of you to make claims such as this due to your ignorance.

Or in the words of my Xbox people.

"Dude you stupid".

[Radz]

I'm sorry, but I still don't see the unethical angle. It would be unethical if EVER game ever made was cross-platform and they neglected to mention that "Hey, you can't play this game with other platforms even though EVERY other game does." They are doing the exact same thing as all the other AAA titles, yet somehow they have become unethical for it?

And don't give me BS about misrepresentation. Just because a couple idiots on the internet made some (logically faulty) leap that the game would be cross-platform does not mean anything was misrepresented. It's means some people made assumptions and the general Internet populace was too lazy/ignorant to actually fact check.

Heck, I hoped it would be cross-platform, but I didn't make that assumption. I looked and asked people who I KNEW would know and figured it out on my own.

[Rah]

Slow as hell, i for-one would love to see 360/ps3 kiddies in PVP easy kill is an easy Kill.

Although I do some pvp in games, I usually do it mostly with friends in a group. Mainly I wanted to be able to group with my sister and her boyfriend who are on a console. Not because of some advantage in pvp.

[Hawty]

Unless you are brand new to gaming i dont know why youd buy a game thats multi platform assuming its going be cross platform. I always check

[Random]

oh man i remember playing quake arena on my PC and demolishing all those virgins on the Dreamcast (Console Kiddie)

Slow as hell, i for-one would love to see 360/ps3 kiddies in PVP easy kill is an easy Kill.

Ironic post is ironic~

[Rah]

I'm sorry, but I still don't see the unethical angle. It would be unethical if EVER game ever made was cross-platform and they neglected to mention that "Hey, you can't play this game with other platforms even though EVERY other game does." They are doing the exact same thing as all the other AAA titles, yet somehow they have become unethical for it?

I chose you to respond to because you're less insulting and more trying to make a point. I'm on a pc, and the AAA games I see are mmos or single player, not console games creating platform specific short term games. My first mmo was FFXI, and all the rest have been PC only. So to people who play shooter games that this is old news to, that's nice. To me, the idea of an mmo being cross platform was not only feasible, I played it. Also the fact that they are not cross platform is not the ethical issue. That there is a misrepresentation that profits them is.

And don't give me BS about misrepresentation. Just because a couple idiots on the internet made some (logically faulty) leap that the game would be cross-platform does not mean anything was misrepresented. It's means some people made assumptions and the general Internet populace was too lazy/ignorant to actually fact check.

Heck, I hoped it would be cross-platform, but I didn't make that assumption. I looked and asked people who I KNEW would know and figured it out on my own.

I'm guessing you're only responding to the first post in the thread and didn't read the later ones. I took the word of my sister's boyfriend who I had no specific reason to doubt, along with no warning signs from personal gaming experience. I'm not saying Trion is to blame. I'm saying a misrepresentation exists. To what extent it exists; well Trion knows how many similar issues they've seen in forums and customer service complaints via phone and email, and requests for refunds. If that's a lot, then Trion has an ethical obligation to clear up the misrepresentation no matter how stupid or ignorant or lazy any angry poster here feels the complainants are. There's no issue of fault in this ethical issue; it doesn't matter who created the misrepresentation - only that one exists, it is common enough to affect many people, that the company is profiting from it, and whether or not they do the right thing (clear up the issue before and attached to the purchase so they no longer profit from a misrepresentation). Whether the company or someone in it caused the misrepresentation doesn't matter - only that they continue to profit from it or do something to clear it up.

[Sterangerman]

This is your own fault, all you had to do is a small amount of checking to be sure. So you goofed up and want to come on the forums and cry about it get real.

[Radz]

I'm not going to argue anymore since this guy seems to be equating his issue with some great moral wrong and insists on such as a means to shift the blame of this situation to someone other than himself. I leave you with these two words that sum up any purchase you make.

Buyer Beware