LMG seems > everything else?

[exxcess]

Is it true there are 606 dmg LMG available? if so where do you get them?

[Era]

Minigun>Everything Else



Also a decent pistol (mine for instance) will put out a LOT of damage on weak point intensive targets
5316 dps considering reload
9204 dps not considering reload
each magazine puts out 22656 damage and empties in about 2.5 seconds

[g1mps0r]

That is why I have this clarified, lmgs only shines against enemies where you're not able to hit the weak spot for a certain time and lack in DISTANCE counter attacks.. You can by no means really argue with me that you can put out more damage against a monarch with your pistol than with a lmgs. Even with a pferfect ping(30ms or lower) it's just impossible if you strafe around him and hip fire.

Against human targets/bullwarks etc. it's a different matter.

[Swallow]

SAW used to be my favorite weapon until I got a +3 burst mod and put it on the purple heavy assault rifle fm Top-Notch.

The Frontier Battle Rifle only has a clip size 20 but that's what make it the best pve weapon which syn with mods, perks and weapon bonus.

The +3 Burst Mod burns your clip real quick

Pumped Up + built in effect of the weapon, you get a 25% ego recharge each time you reload

Single Minded reduce reload time by a chunk and Overload make reload even faster when Overcharge is on.

With Quick Charge and Killing Machine, my Overcharge has nearly 70% up time when I keep firing.

[Era]

That is why I have this clarified, lmgs only shines against enemies where you're not able to hit the weak spot for a certain time and lack in DISTANCE counter attacks.. You can by no means really argue with me that you can put out more damage against a monarch with your pistol than with a lmgs. Even with a pferfect ping(30ms or lower) it's just impossible if you strafe around him and hip fire.

Against human targets/bullwarks etc. it's a different matter.

LMGs are horribly inaccurate at a distance, you'd get more damage out of moving in with a sniper till you get into pistol range. As for monarchs, anything but a swarm cannon which puts out 2-3k+ per shot is a waste of time and energy. And if you haven't noticed, most of the enemies in the game are human targets.

[Greywolf]

God this discussions is absurd, just run the dmg values and rate of fire through excel and you'll see that there is not a single weapon who is nearly nigh to the raw dmg of lmgs even if you consider weak spot hits with 1k dmg weapons like snipers and magnums. At point blank range dps wise it's the most op weapon ig. (dps NOT burst this is were shotguns shines)

Yeah you've spike damage but thats it. Your 4-8k hits comes only into play against enemies with tiny hitboxes/short time to shot at them. Against a Monarch for example there is no single weapon which is stronger than an saw. Even with hip fire you hit them with every shot and get them down in like a quarter the time you'll need with an pistol/sniper. Because you can easily strife around them in close quarter and do not get a single hit... It's just absurd one mag(85 rounds) without ever hit an weak spot brings them down to like 20%. Just hit a weak spot for like 1sec and they lose 20-40%. ;>

BUT and this is big.. against human enemies ar, pistols, sniper are they way to go. Lmgs have a way to high spray against them because

A. you can't get to melee range if you're hip firering.
B. Even with exploiting the reaim bug it's way more effective to empty an ar clip/shoot 1-3 times at the head with a sniper/pistol than waste like 20 bullets per kill with an lmgs.

But against Hellbugs there is no other weapon which is that effective, especially against monarchs..

I accept this, however, let it be known even with a pistol, all you have to do is bait a warrior into opening its mouth and then its dead in 0.3 seconds. If you are talking beating a monarch by just emptying whole clips into it sure.. u will do more dmg.. but thats where the ammo count comes into it

[g1mps0r]

I've clarified it from the top... that lmgs are good against melee enemies. So I don't get it why you even put the distance matter.
But even than...No I don't think you would do more dmg with your sniper while approaching a enemy. And I even don't use lmgs for the most part. Human enemies = ar and grenade launcher(shielded raiders). If I've time/range I'll use my sniper. Pistols are not my kind because I refused to use them on xbox because they're a totally waste there because of controls and connection with the overall bad performance there. On the pc version(which I play now because xbox version is mostly unplayable with a mediocre Inet connection---> 240kb download = unplayable/disconnects there on arcfalls) pistols are fine(only magnums with clip size and reload or/and rate of fire).

I still prever my blue lmg(fire) over my orange magnum(I really cried when I got it out of a box) if I fight against Hellbugs and even my purple burst ar will do a better job against most enemies. ;> Pistols just need too much perfect stats and mods to be even effective while other weapons shine even without mods/good stats. ;>

[g1mps0r]

Yeah wolf of course... Ammo wise your method is a whole more effective. But time wise it's not. Thats what I want to say.. Sorry if my bad english caused a bit of confusion there. ;>

[Era]

You shouldn't accept it, a Wolfhound has a much higher dps than a SAW in any case except base damage with no crits involved at all.

Which means SAWs outperform on blast pods and monarchs (and monarchs you should be fighting with a swarm cannon).

[Dinova]

Minigun>Everything Else

The reaper

By far the most epic gun i've seen in the game.

LMG is my basic weapon, does alot of damage and got far dropoff, but its very situational. Solo going with a sniper is far easier since u can headshot pretty much anything.

But recently i got the purple AR from a mission, i'm using that far more now.