LMG seems > everything else?

[Kurze]

Yeah I beat 2mill easy, not even using overcharge

your probably one of those guys that just hug the ammo cache and shoot at any critter that is at distance, only stopping to reload.

I do 2m playing properly, you know, chasing and hitting the monarchs and hellion, having to run to the cache and then back to where the monarchs/hellion are, and ignoring the rest of stuff that is absolutly meaningless to the arkfall goal except for artificially inflating the score...

[alilsneaky]

your probably one of those guys that just hug the ammo cache and shoot at any critter that is at distance, only stopping to reload.

I do 2m playing properly, you know, chasing and hitting the monarchs and hellion, having to run to the cache and then back to where the monarchs/hellion are, and ignoring the rest of stuff that is absolutly meaningless to the arkfall goal except for artificially inflating the score...

They really need to fix the hellbug arkfall it's boring as **** chasing after that ****ing monarch all day long....
Worse thing is if someone flinches it with explosives it resets the animation...

So you'll stun it when it goes on its rear legs, someone else uses a rocket launcher and flinches it while its weakness is exposed and it'll go into the flinch animation showing the weak spot for 1sec instead of like 5seconds....

Even if they fix that it's still endlessly boring.

[KodiakX]

The SAW is stupid effective and makes countless weapons redundant and worthless.

It's Damage/Bullet is one of the highest and is definately the highest for it's Fire Rate. SMGs are terrible by comparison because they do a fraction of the damage for the same ammunition. I can go through 500 ammo in the same time with an LMG and easily kill 10 times the amount of things. The same is true of just about every other Assault Rifle short of the TACC Assault Rifle which with good aim can keep up with the 3 round burst fire. The same goes for just about any other weapon type's inability to keep up. I look at my Clustershot Shotgun (another pretty OP weapon) and I can spit out 3 bullets from the SAW in the same time frame.

People who complain about the recoil/bloom are most likely not using it right. It's very easy to just release fire and bloom instantly resets. With crouching (which you want to do for crit multipliers on weapon and perk) the recoil and bloom is even more under control.

It's going to be the first thing nerfed but because they have so many worthless other weapons in the game it'll just transition to another weapon (most likely the TACC Assault Rifle and then Clustershots). The whole system needs an overhaul and weapon roles more clearly defined and most likely mechanics introduced (such as improved ADS move speed for lighter weapons making your ADS with a SAW crawl along). You can't have a weapon with controllable accuracy, the best damage, massive base clip and expect it to not dominate everything else.

The only downside to the SAW is the headache inducing screen shake because they wanted to set a FOV of -92.

[Greywolf]

your probably one of those guys that just hug the ammo cache and shoot at any critter that is at distance, only stopping to reload.

I do 2m playing properly, you know, chasing and hitting the monarchs and hellion, having to run to the cache and then back to where the monarchs/hellion are, and ignoring the rest of stuff that is absolutly meaningless to the arkfall goal except for artificially inflating the score...

I don't stop to reload? I can do that on the run lol, and no I don't hug the ammo cache, I alternate between my assault rifle and my pistol, soon as I know a mob is going to open up a weak spot i swap and unload until my hearts content, and if monarch is taking too long I swap to my grenade launching sawn off shotgun, and shoot grenades under the monarch that hit the ground, to hit the weak spot from under, that way I don't even need it to roll/arch back to attack or flutter its back flaps

[Wtflag]

Greywolf, we play exactly alike.

I use wolfgang pistol for massive hits on weak spots when they open up. The reload is very short which is a plus since you can hit on the weak spots that appear back to back without pause. Alternatively, i have also used semi-auto sniper rifles which is functionally the same.

I use submachines for hellbug archers and times when weak spots aren't present.

I consistently managed top 5 in major Arkfalls

[Freyar]

I really don't like LMGs. Accuracy isn't good enough so I stick to assault rifles.

[Greywolf]

Greywolf, we play exactly alike.

I use pistol for massive hits on weak spots when they open up. Alternatively, semi-auto sniper rifles which you can also spam weak spots.

I use submachines for hellbug archers and times when weak spots aren't present.

I consistently managed top 5 in major Arkfalls

Good to know I am not the only one, my assault rifle has a 53mag clip and fires as fast as an SMG with decent range, good for archers and anything close range on the move, mobs just stare at you, so easy for headshots.. Like 500% crit on a pistol is hectic, "VBI HP-6 Wolfhound" is the pistol I use.. love the name

On a side note: WTB Orange VBI HP-6 Wolfhound with Run-n-Gun Synergy!

[LunaticFate]

Used to run a SAW. The clip size and damage are certainly great on them, but the rate of fire kind of turned me off considering the overall accuracy when compared to some assault rifles.

Might look into those wolfgang pistols. Looted a few but have yet to use one. Currently using an AR/Clusterbomb Detonator.

[Dikard von Doom]

The bloom is an issue, but if you use Overcharge, then recoil's no problem at all. Not to mention if you stop firing at all, the cone of fire instantly resets no matter what. So while you can't hold the trigger down like some SMGs, if you use controlled bursts, you can be extremely effective with it.

That is exactly how I use a SAW. I have no problem anti-sniping with it. It's my go-to weapon for ANY situation. My main load out is a SAW for primary and Ground Pounder for secondary. Ground Pounder is my secodary for all my specs. The SAW averages 700-900+ damage a bullet with Overcharge and has zero recoil. Without Overcharge, the farther away a target is the shorter I'll burst fire the gun. Up close, NOTHING has a chance with or without Overcharge. By far, SAW/Ground Pounder is the nastiest weapon combo I've used.

[v1ctor]

SAWs are very powerful in PvE due to their high DPS. The downside to them is that they have very high recoil and do not handle very well in CQC. They also suck in PvP (if your opponent knows what he's doing).