Weapon Skill Leveling System Seriously Needs Changed!

[Lonestar1771]

i think he meant to direct that towards me, since i'm the jerk here. idk though...

I didn't come in here to be a jerk, just so you know.... but I will defend myself and use witty retorts to do so.

[Archangel]

Add a -90% weapon skill exp "bonus" to the weapon when it levels up.

This does 2 things...

1) Let's people know what the **** is going on.
2) Still allows you to gain something while you try and get another weapon.

So you keep your old gun and lower your exp for kills but are allowed to keep moving forward? Is that what your saying?

I'm sorry if i'm interpreting your 2) incorrectly.

But why would you want to continue to use an old gun and hurt your leveling when it can be replaced with one just like it and you get full XP bonus?

Curious thats all.

<----- not a sarcastic kind of guy when it comes to legitimate discussions (^-^)b

[Nosada]

I didn't come in here to be a jerk, just so you know.... but I will defend myself and use witty retorts to do so.

...you will try...

[Archellion]

If you modd'd out Ego weapon of 110 was as good as someone's 3420 ego weapon then whats the point to leveling your ego score?

EGO perks are the only reason to advance your EGO. A weapon's EGO rating is irrelevant.

I made this suggestion to improve the weapon leveling.

[oldboy]

i would like them to make u leavel up to a full 20 then let your gun leavel after that i stell use my purp gun from the start of the game got it from a quest not like a lvl 1000 would do to much more damg then a lvl 1 any way the damg never relly gos up

[WeeohhWeeohh]

Just because you don't like the system does not mean it is s flawed. That is your opinion. Find a grean vender weapon you like and level it. Once maxed, sell/break down and repeat the process.

[sc9000]

I know people have posted about this before, but it is REALLY starting to annoy me. So we all know, once you max out a particular weapon and it gains its bonus, you cannot raise your skill with that weapon anymore. You have to switch to some other weapon in order to keep leveling your skill with that weapon type. This is completely counter intuitive to the Mod system and the EXP bar on the weapon. Why do I want to spend my time modding a weapon and getting the bonus on it, when I have to ditch that weapon in just a bit anyway? Now I'm being forced to use inferior weapons just so I can keep leveling my weapon skills. And I have to run around with a bunch of crap guns in my inventory so I have something to switch to when I max out my current gun. This whole system is really not well thought out. It's like 2 different people with opposite ideas tried to put this together. FIX THIS PLEASE ITS THE MOST ANNOYING THING ABOUT THIS GAME!!!!!!!

P.S. If you're one of the people who foolishly want to defend this system, just leave now, because I already understand how the system works and I know all the reasons why someone might justify it, I am a game design student and I understand how game mechanics work. This system is flawed and there is no legitimate defense for it.

Understand your a game design student , but would you want a gun that everyone in the world got , in day one , and there no reason to get another gun, like borderlands were they got millions of weapons, but there only 5 of the weapons that are ever used. , Just wait till you earn a great rare white weapon or green weapon or blue weapon or purple weapon or even orange weapon , and then you can feel like a god. and it nice that takes time to level up weapon skills not in 2 days or 1 day. This is a mmo and it would be nice for the game to be around for a few years not last year. Like any mmo in time they will make it easier for new players down the road so you might need to take a break. Also you might need to do some more schooling and you should do some more research on mmos otherwise you will just bankrupt the company your working for.

Take the time and grind your weapon up to lv20, and then you need no reason to complain, script not worth anything right now anyways, so this is a example : you grind 30 green saws and then find that one super rare stat , then you will know it , be like heck yea , no one else got it. Then got it on the green weapon better then a orange weapon ,Then you will understand what you need for the rest of the colors, unless you want everyone in the game to be the exact same player.

[Gero]

it is incredibly annoying, people say its to force your to try other weapons, but i dont understand that logic, people should be free to use whatever weapon they want to stick with, i believe it may be done this way to "persuade" people to spend money on bits to buy lockboxes for better weapons since they need so damn many of them

Not to mention that a lot of people won't even try new weapons, all they do is go to a vender and buy the same weapon they just had again. Thats what I do. I level up my frontier shotgun, then I go to the vendor and buy the same gun again unless I lucked out and picked up a better pump shotgun in the process of leveling my last one. Overall the system is just god awful. In a game about weapon and loadout customization, it makes exactly no sense that 95% of the time I'm using guns that I like less than guns I have in my inventory. I use 1 out of 4 of my loadouts almost all the time, and its the one I use just for leveling crap guns.

Also, anyone trying to defend this is just outright silly. You want to try every gun in the game? Gratz, thats good for you. Changing the system wouldn't hold you back at all. I'm at almost 1500 ego and I've tried most versions of the guns I like... I'm well aware of how they work and how effective I am with them and as I said before, this system really just makes me go back to the vender every few hours and buy the crap version of other guns I already have.

Plus it just belittles any good gun you do find. It's like "OH YES A ORANGE GUN! It's just the kind I like! Perfect stats! I'm so lucky! I'm throwing all my best mods on it!"
*2 hours later!*
"Well that was fun! Back to the vender to buy the crap version of this gun. Have fun sitting in my inventory!"

Lastly, I play a ton of pvp, where this is even more of a pain. In a competitive atmosphere it makes no sense that I'm stuck using a weapon I find less competitive. Sure I can and do use the guns I like from time to time, but it just holds me back from getting more weapon levels.

[Grimwyrd]

Sure I can and do use the guns I like from time to time, but it just holds me back from getting more weapon levels.

Think of how great it will be to finish leveling that gun skill. I have Assault Rifles at 20 and it feels wonderful. Over a dozen green EMC Service Rifles had to die to get me there (in addition to a several VBI TACC Assault Rifles), but now I don't have to worry about it anymore.

If you have no goals to shoot for (pun intended), why play the game?

[Gero]

Think of how great it will be to finish leveling that gun skill. I have Assault Rifles at 20 and it feels wonderful. Over a dozen green EMC Service Rifles had to die to get me there (in addition to a several VBI TACC Assault Rifles), but now I don't have to worry about it anymore.

If you have no goals to shoot for (pun intended), why play the game?

But I would have the same goal, only I would be using the weapons I like to get there.

Also this system holds me back from trying new types of weapons as well.
1. because it would require an insane amount of grinding again.
and more so
2. Because I would have to worry about constantly finding new replacements for a new type of weapon

I would happily have different builds, with different types of guns if it wasn't such a chore to level them. As of right now I have 4 load outs all with and AR and a pump shotty. I simply am not going to play the constant replacement game with 3 or 4 types of weapons at the same time. If anything I've tried LESS weapons because of this awful system. It's an accomplishment when you finish I'm sure. Still, I would rather enjoy the journey as well.