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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Nosada View Post
    P.S. If you're one of the people who foolishly want to defend this system, just leave now, because I already understand how the system works and I know all the reasons why someone might justify it, I am a game design student and I understand how game mechanics work. This system is flawed and there is no legitimate defense for it.
    Freedom of speech is annoying, eh? I completely and utterly disagree with you

    I really like this system exactly *because* it forces me to switch guns and keep backup guns for when my current one is maxed; in my opinion, this is definitely more interesting then picking up one gun and using it throughout the game.

    Also, you seem to think that the gun with maxed experience is “ruined”, when it is far from truth: if you find a particularly good gun nothing stops you from keeping it for the future when your weapon skill is maxed.

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    Yeah, I could see where if you are worried about finding weapons and consider leveling weapons a grind... this could be a bad system.

    I don't worry about finding weapons, I simply buy them from vendors. And I don't consider running around and shooting things a "grind", because that's why I play the game... to run around and shoot things.

  3. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by Sanae View Post

    I really like this system exactly *because* it forces me to switch guns
    Okay, well nothing would stop you from switching guns with a different system....

    Just saying most people don't like to feel forced into doing something annoying and I'm sorry but thats all it is. It's not challenging, it doesn't add depth to the game, all it does is make you run to the vender every few hours to buy another crappy gun. That is. How is that fun or engaging? It holds me back from trying new guns seeing as if I find a pistol I really like, but I normally use ARs Well now I'm going to have to go through this whole process again with pistols just to use this one gun I found? Yeah right....

    Also, I would try new guns of the same type regardless seeing as many of them have different stats such as larger mags, more accuracy or different elemental effects.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grimwyrd View Post
    Yeah, I could see where if you are worried about finding weapons and consider leveling weapons a grind... this could be a bad system.

    I don't worry about finding weapons, I simply buy them from vendors. And I don't consider running around and shooting things a "grind", because that's why I play the game... to run around and shoot things.
    Right but there isn't always a vender with that type of gun. Like I love 3 round burst AR's, but for 90 % of my game I'm stuck with full auto ones because no vendor sells a basic 3 shot burst one. And as I said above, if I find a pistol I like, I should be able to use it without having to find/buy 50 other pistols I don't like as much just to level up the skill. This pigeon holes you into 2 type of guns pretty much. That's just silly in a game with so much gun variety.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gero View Post
    Right but there isn't always a vender with that type of gun. Like I love 3 round burst AR's, but for 90 % of my game I'm stuck with full auto ones because no vendor sells a basic 3 shot burst one.
    I guess I'm just a "glass half full" kind of guy. I have exactly the same AR tastes. I like the 3-round burst, but ended up having to often use the full auto ones for leveling. Instead of finding that annoying, I thought to myself, "Ooh excellent! Here's a VBI TACC AR vendor special. I'll get to use a nicer gun for a bit!"

    Anyway, we're obviously not going to convince each other, because we look at life differently. I hope you find some way to enjoy the system, because it is what it is... and I don't think there will be any major changes to it.

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    I agree with the OP and to all the people out there that act like this game is perfect and are in complete denial that there are major issues in this game. GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR *****!!!

    The DEV's see the drastic amount of less people on the servers on a daily basis from a week and a half ago! There are less people playing now than 2 weeks ago. And the DEV's see it and know it!

    You people who act like every bad comment about the game is a direct insult to yourselves are just plain idiots. Why are people not allowed to talk about there problems with the game with out a bunch of fanboys just flame them and get every thread that says anything negative closed and locked!
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    Quote Originally Posted by chefwhitey View Post
    I agree with the OP and to all the people out there that act like this game is perfect and are in complete denial that there are major issues in this game. GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR *****!!!

    The DEV's see the drastic amount of less people on the servers on a daily basis from a week and a half ago! There are less people playing now than 2 weeks ago. And the DEV's see it and know it!

    You people who act like every bad comment about the game is a direct insult to yourselves are just plain idiots. Why are people not allowed to talk about there problems with the game with out a bunch of fanboys just flame them and get every thread that says anything negative closed and locked!
    if you think this game is so bad and ppl are leaving then why are you still playing?

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    How can you buy duplicate weapon with script? I woul like to know that please.

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    I was not even aware of this. I am 1034 EGO rating an been using my same gun sinse I was 580. I have been wondering whay my gun did not lvl up. Now I know and I really think its anoying and frustrating.
    I totaly agrea with you that this system is fault and need to be fixed a.s.a.p!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shootersa View Post
    if you think this game is so bad and ppl are leaving then why are you still playing?
    Im not really
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  10. #70
    The stupid weapon xp system in this game is the reason why you are literally pushed to use exploits
    like sniper challenge lvling(bolt action) or the instant respawn raider hulk(sawed off/bolt action/infectors).

    If you're really lvling those weapons in the way it is intended you would need at least 1 week non stop grinding for bolt actions to max and hell... like 4 weeks with sawed offs/infectors.

    It's just a joke how you can push lmgs/ars to 20 in like one day but the slow firering/reload weapons take like a life to max. ( even if you're constantly hitting weak spots)

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