Defiance PvP?

[Cyrox]

I see his point, Pvp should be focused on just as much as pve, I feel they should add a "runescape wilderness" area for people that want open world Pvp.
On a side note, I didn't realize that video games NEEDED to make sense? In which case there isn't a single game out there that justifies every single thing they enter into the game, you may as well give up gaming if they have to make logical sense for you to play them.

Don't you guys ever stop and think "openworld pvp + sniper" or "openworld pvp + group of snipers" It's alot different in a game like runescape, wow, uo, gw because have to get close. with guns and couple friends you can kill someone in 0.01 second and they have no idea what just happened. gl balancing that.
On sidenote it would be even more stupid if you could pvp in questing area, you'd wait until someones shield gets down and you 1shot him, yaaaay so much fun.

I love pvp myself and i was very high in pvp in wow forex. but having on open world pvp without restrictions in game like this screams for common sense

[Desidus]

Don't you guys ever stop and think "openworld pvp + sniper" or "openworld pvp + group of snipers" It's alot different in a game like runescape, wow, uo, gw because have to get close. with guns and couple friends you can kill someone in 0.01 second and they have no idea what just happened. gl balancing that.
On sidenote it would be even more stupid if you could pvp in questing area, you'd wait until someones shield gets down and you 1shot him, yaaaay so much fun.

I love pvp myself and i was very high in pvp in wow forex. but having on open world pvp without restrictions in game like this screams for common sense

They already have balanced that. There are a bunch of enemies that are very hard to hit effectively with a sniper rifle. Remember unless you headshot or weakpoint hit with the sniper rifle the damage goes way down. Also some enemies are extremely quick and come right up close before you have a chance to react.

So sniper rifles while useful are not the end all be all of some games.

[Midniteryu]

If Trion could, it would be cool to expand on the shadow war concept by allowing clans and large groups to " opt in " for persistent version of the game mode where groups and clans could fight for terrirtory.

[SweetMadness]

you have no control, thats why there isnt going to be fully open pvp.

I'll assume I'm being quoted for emphasis, otherwise I have no idea why I'm quoted.

[Dead_Phoenix]

I'll assume I'm being quoted for emphasis, otherwise I have no idea why I'm quoted.

you quoted me so i presumed it was at me if not i got the wrong end of a stick.

Don't you guys ever stop and think "openworld pvp + sniper" or "openworld pvp + group of snipers" It's alot different in a game like runescape, wow, uo, gw because have to get close. with guns and couple friends you can kill someone in 0.01 second and they have no idea what just happened. gl balancing that.
On sidenote it would be even more stupid if you could pvp in questing area, you'd wait until someones shield gets down and you 1shot him, yaaaay so much fun.

I love pvp myself and i was very high in pvp in wow forex. but having on open world pvp without restrictions in game like this screams for common sense

this brings up another problem devs have with pvp. balancing in the open world. when the world is instanced, its alot easyier making rules for 1 and rules for another.

when its fully open that all goes out the window. you have pve players to think about, pvp players, then open world. all this is costing time and resources when making a game.

[Dead_Phoenix]

You have too much control Dead Phoenix! and WAY TOO MANY POSTS!! grrr.. I was catching up till I had to work so much. lol.

hey i work 6 days a week, have a kid etc, no excuse my friend buck up

Both of you are ridiculous in your post counts but they are very important as well:P

as long as people find them constructive and helpful

....im not so sure you do... i cant see alpha forums.. perhaps the secret thread is there

my alpha count is different to this.

[Cyrox]

They already have balanced that. There are a bunch of enemies that are very hard to hit effectively with a sniper rifle. Remember unless you headshot or weakpoint hit with the sniper rifle the damage goes way down. Also some enemies are extremely quick and come right up close before you have a chance to react.

So sniper rifles while useful are not the end all be all of some games.

I think you should read my post again i wasn't talking about pve. i was talking about pvp when there is an open area and someone goes there with rockelauncher/shotgun etc etc and someguys instakill him from a distance when he doesn't even see them.

[incognegro]

If Trion could, it would be cool to expand on the shadow war concept by allowing clans and large groups to " opt in " for persistent version of the game mode where groups and clans could fight for terrirtory.

like in later dlc open up the other parts of the map and when i we get enough space set up some sort of strongholds to have guilds/clans fight for and and who ever wins gets to keep it until they are bested on the field and it gets taken from them

[GrizzlyAKIMBO]

Ultimately the reason Open-world PvP games today are so rare is simply because they are unpopular. Open-world PvP games are often unregulated, unpoliced and actively encourage ganking. It is not acceptable and makes the learning curve almost impossible for new players. Providing a seperate option for PvP which is instanced and balanced regulates the experience whilst still mainting its competitive integrity.

I fail to see a valid argument for Open-world PvP. If there are PvP options available, what is the problem? The only reason I can fathom why anyone would be upset that there is no Open-world PvP option is that they are gankers and they cannot gank. End of.

[SweetMadness]

you quoted me so i presumed it was at me if not i got the wrong end of a stick.

Nope, I erred, I quoted the wrong person and didn't catch it. And no, I agree with you. This is NOT the kind of game for open PvP.