Defiance PvP?

[MOnte]

Dead_phoenix is correct about the PvP. It is all queue base, even the open world "optional" PvP. Not sure I would want an open world PvP "zone", unless they implement a faction type system for them. With goals and such within the zone for the factions.

I also wouldn't mind a guild V guild type queue for PvP.

Either way. PvP is going to be much fun.

[Dead_Phoenix]

Dead_phoenix is correct about the PvP. It is all queue base, even the open world "optional" PvP. Not sure I would want an open world PvP "zone", unless they implement a faction type system for them. With goals and such within the zone for the factions.

I also wouldn't mind a guild V guild type queue for PvP.

Either way. PvP is going to be much fun.

i would love guild v guild planned pvp. or vehicle based pvp. that would be awesome

[0_d4RK_FaLLen]

i would love guild v guild planned pvp. or vehicle based pvp. that would be awesome

Should still be able to set these up with some good planning ahead

[kirix]

with battle grounds and shadow war there is no need for open world pvp all the time. it always ends up with

1. a group ganking 1 non stop
2. some 1 with best in slot gear ganking ppl with low lvl gear (this is a shooter with perks (ego) and gives them huge advantages)
3. a guild who only lives to gank grief others.

those 3 reasons are enough to stop new players from enjoying and playing a game that is being advertised as a PVE third person shooter MMO.

also we got battlefield 3 and planet side 2 for largescale open world pvp.

sometimes people forget that PVE is actually more popular then pvp in MMOs, its just in MMOS the most vocal comunity is the pvp playerbase while small in number end up having alot of changes made for them,
lets take WoW as an example. look at all the nerfs and broken classes / specs they have due to pvp and then compare it to vanila.

so no open world pvp. keep it pve friendly thats what the battle grounds and shadowwar is for.

[DuoMaxwell007]

with battle grounds and shadow war there is no need for open world pvp all the time. it always ends up with

1. a group ganking 1 non stop
2. some 1 with best in slot gear ganking ppl with low lvl gear (this is a shooter with perks (ego) and gives them huge advantages)
3. a guild who only lives to gank grief others.

those 3 reasons are enough to stop new players from enjoying and playing a game that is being advertised as a PVE third person shooter MMO.

also we got battlefield 3 and planet side 2 for largescale open world pvp.

sometimes people forget that PVE is actually more popular then pvp in MMOs, its just in MMOS the most vocal comunity is the pvp playerbase while small in number end up having alot of changes made for them,
lets take WoW as an example. look at all the nerfs and broken classes / specs they have due to pvp and then compare it to vanila.

so no open world pvp. keep it pve friendly thats what the battle grounds and shadowwar is for.

and in those situations you can do one of two things


1) Get better

Ive beaten ppl in ace combat online whos ships/planes were statistically better than mine... i,e they could kill me in one shot and their armor was so thick and my guns were so weak that Id literally have to shot em for 30 minutes before i could kill em.. yet being able to kill me in one shot means nothing if you cant hit me.... so I just avoided their attacked while making sure MY attacks hit for 30 minutes until they blew up.

2. Make friends

lets see how tough those gankers are when youre not alone


Also for every ganker/ganker guild theres also an anti ganker player/guild who makes it their busines sto beat down gankers so that the newbies can level/play in peace.... I was one of those guys.. so yeah there ARE options

[HatTrick]

Sorry if i sounded rude but honestly im sick of it. The replys in this thread prove me right...

I'm guessing you are still in your 20s? I don't mean that as a slight but I say it because I used to have the same attitude you did when I was in my 20s. I had a lot more time for gaming then and I lived for PvP. I was never a ganker but I thought gankers added some additional danger to the world. I didn't mind them.

Thing is, as we get older, our priorities change. Maybe you get a family, maybe a better job that requires more hours, other hobbies. More and more things start to compete for your time to the point that you don't really like having your time wasted and that's what gankers do, waste your time (and theirs for that matter.) They get nothing for killing you in most games and it certainly doesn't require any great skill to do it so they are just wasting the time of everyone involved. I'm no longer cool with that.

Now as others have mentioned, there are plenty of MMOs out there with PvP in them. EvE PvP is pretty ruthless and Planetside 2 is ideal if you want a shooter with that at its core. In both of those games though, people are expecting to be attacked and you won't catch them unaware very often. That said, my question to you then is are you just looking for a game with a flock of sheep for you and your wolf buddies to mercilessly slaughter? If so, I am not sorry to say that those days are long gone. See, the sheep stop paying for the game when the wolves are left alone to slaughter them and no developer wants that.

edit: oh, and I am still no carebear. I intend to spend most of my time in Defiance involved in this Shadow War thing but when I want a break from it, I want a break.

[Dead_Phoenix]

and in those situations you can do one of two things


1) Get better

Ive beaten ppl in ace combat online whos ships/planes were statistically better than mine... i,e they could kill me in one shot and their armor was so thick and my guns were so weak that Id literally have to shot em for 30 minutes before i could kill em.. yet being able to kill me in one shot means nothing if you cant hit me.... so I just avoided their attacked while making sure MY attacks hit for 30 minutes until they blew up.

2. Make friends

lets see how tough those gankers are when youre not alone


Also for every ganker/ganker guild theres also an anti ganker player/guild who makes it their busines sto beat down gankers so that the newbies can level/play in peace.... I was one of those guys.. so yeah there ARE options

ok see what you mean, but you cant just tell people to just "get better", thats no difference from the "learn to play" response. i do remember moments in WoW where i got jumped by a much higher level, i manged to turn the tables and kill them. it felt fantastic. but for every time this happened i got ganked 10 more by people i had no chance to fight.

i doubt many could fight back against gankers who run around with sniper rifles, or stealth. if your dead before you can react, then whats the point.

[Paladin]

They should add danger zones far from any hotspot city where it would make since for ark hunters to be killing each other with no justification.

[Dead_Phoenix]

They should add danger zones far from any hotspot city where it would make since for ark hunters to be killing each other with no justification.

so shadow war? excpt that has justification of business men paying us to fight in there shadow war.

[SweetMadness]

ok see what you mean, but you cant just tell people to just "get better", thats no difference from the "learn to play" response. i do remember moments in WoW where i got jumped by a much higher level, i manged to turn the tables and kill them. it felt fantastic. but for every time this happened i got ganked 10 more by people i had no chance to fight.

i doubt many could fight back against gankers who run around with sniper rifles, or stealth. if your dead before you can react, then whats the point.

And further more, friends can't be on available 24/7, also there's the fact that the play world is sharded, there's no gurantee your friends or guildmates will always be in the same shard as you. As of this point, I've yet to see or hear of Trion stating there's a way to force yourself into a specific shard.

Having to queue up for PvP is not that big of a deal. A few moments out of your time to queue up.