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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Muffinman View Post
    You really should think about what you say, before you say it. It is very difficult to do a beta for an MMO on consoles. Trion updates their betas/alphas multiple times a week, sometimes multiple times a day. And in order to do this on consoles, they would have to go through microsofts and sonys QA team with each patch, which would slow down the development of the game. Also, its nearly impossible to write a proper bug report on console. The majority of the bug reporting is done in game so they can get data on how the bug occurred, along with your sometimes multi-paragraph description of the bug. Unless you have a keyboard hooked up to your xbox, you're not going to be writing worth while bug reports.

    The only reason to do a console beta, is to stress test it, and make sure everything works the same on console as it did on PC. There honestly, is no reason to have a true console beta/alpha when you can do everything much faster and more efficiently on PC. When was the last time you guys had a true console beta? The betas are all done on PC because its nearly impossible to do a proper beta on console, for the reasons I have already mentioned.

    No, Trion is not ****ting the bed, they are simply trying to make the game the best it can be. The Betas are not meant to be a demo, so stop with your self entitled attitude, and wait for the game like an adult.

    Edit: This wasn't directly aimed towards you, but to all the Console players who feel they are entitled to a beta/alpha.
    Lol, most of what you are going on about is irrelevant. In December, they released VBI.com, which stated there would be betas for all three systems. The entire 'The only reason to do a console beta....' paragraph thus becomes irrelevant, as well as that first one.

    Obviously we are going to feel entitled to a beta...they said they were going to release one, lol. 2 months ago (confused as to why I even have to bring this up). I'm not sure how this fact went over your head.

    And lol at 'be an adult'. Relax with the passive aggressiveness, and try to be an adult next time by bringing something of logic to the table & not spewing irrelevant after irrelevant sentence.

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    I'm not entirely sure that is accurate though. Details on the website still says "Details Coming Soon".
    It would seemt o me that if it's already been confirmed, they'd go ahead and announce it already.
    I used to be an eager Ark Hunter like you, then i took a "soon" to the ear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaricane View Post
    I'm not entirely sure that is accurate though. Details on the website still says "Details Coming Soon".
    It would seemt o me that if it's already been confirmed, they'd go ahead and announce it already.
    Are you saying they didn't confirm they'd be doing console betas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SparklingNugs View Post
    Are you saying they didn't confirm they'd be doing console betas?
    No that WAS CONFIRMED, the date for the next event is what i was referring to. Sorry for the mix up.
    I used to be an eager Ark Hunter like you, then i took a "soon" to the ear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaricane View Post
    No that WAS CONFIRMED, the date for the next event is what i was referring to. Sorry for the mix up.
    No worries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iiReLaX o View Post
    I mean they've already said they won't have to go through Microsoft or Sony to get patches certified.

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    /Nah I'm just kidding.
    Im pretty sure that they they can only bypass microsoft/sony for back end server updates, not updates that require you to download data, but I may be wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muffinman View Post
    Im pretty sure that they they can only bypass microsoft/sony for back end server updates, not updates that require you to download data, but I may be wrong.
    Not 100% sure either, but that sounds correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SparklingNugs View Post
    Lol, most of what you are going on about is irrelevant. In December, they released VBI.com, which stated there would be betas for all three systems. The entire 'The only reason to do a console beta....' paragraph thus becomes irrelevant, as well as that first one.

    Obviously we are going to feel entitled to a beta...they said they were going to release one, lol. 2 months ago (confused as to why I even have to bring this up). I'm not sure how this fact went over your head.

    And lol at 'be an adult'. Relax with the passive aggressiveness, and try to be an adult next time by bringing something of logic to the table & not spewing irrelevant after irrelevant sentence.
    Yes, I know they released VBI.com, and yes there is still going to be a console beta. How does VBI.com in any way invalidate the fact, that testing on PC is faster and more efficient then testing on consoles? I'm saying the only reason to do a console beta for any game is for marketing purposes and a stress test, since its so difficult to write bug reports on consoles. I am not trying to say you guys shouldn't get a beta. It was advertised with the pre-orders, so they kinda have to.

    But there is no reason to have one earlier then they are planning. This is mainly going to be the marketing demo, invites will most likely be extremely easy to get. You do no want to do a marketing beta when the game is still extremely buggy, it might put a lot of people off. Trust me, Trion knows what they're doing, and they would have done an earlier console beta if they saw it beneficial to the game.

    Again, I am not trying to argue that you guys shouldn't get a beta, it has been promised to you guys already; there just isn't much of a reason to do it early since the bug reporting is more efficiently done on PC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muffinman View Post
    Yes, I know they released VBI.com, and yes there is still going to be a console beta. How does VBI.com in any way invalidate the fact, that testing on PC is faster and more efficient then testing on consoles? I'm saying the only reason to do a console beta for any game is for marketing purposes and a stress test, since its so difficult to write bug reports on consoles. I am not trying to say you guys shouldn't get a beta. It was advertised with the pre-orders, so they kinda have to.

    But there is no reason to have one earlier then they are planning. This is mainly going to be the marketing demo, invites will most likely be extremely easy to get. You do no want to do a marketing beta when the game is still extremely buggy, it might put a lot of people off. Trust me, Trion knows what they're doing, and they would have done an earlier console beta if they saw it beneficial to the game.

    Again, I am not trying to argue that you guys shouldn't get a beta, it has been promised to you guys already; there just isn't much of a reason to do it early since the bug reporting is more efficiently done on PC.
    I'm not arguing for it to come out early; I'm simply arguing for Trion to make an announcement other than the word 'soon'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SparklingNugs View Post
    I'm not arguing for it to come out early; I'm simply arguing for Trion to make an announcement other than the word 'soon'.
    Well, trion really doesn't know for sure themselves :P Anything could go wrong, causing them to have to post-pone the beta a week, but it's almost certainly coming the weekend of the 15th and 16th unless something goes wrong.
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