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    Quote Originally Posted by SOUL TECHNIQUE View Post
    if you so pro why does it matter? no disrespect.
    All too often game mechanics become greater than skill and tactics. When you introduce a mechanic like aim assist in PVP I promise you people will use it in ways it wasn't intended to get an edge and you will have a whole other element the devs have to try and balance. For example, if I turn aim assist on in PVE I can use it to constantly get headshots by spamming the aim button and continuously realigning my reticle with a moving target. Then, of course, you will have to decide if it is able to be used with sniper rifles or which guns it is more powerful of a tool to use for and try to find a way to balance that with the guns it is less powerful for.

    Or, you could just keep it the way it is and let skill decide. We have enough trouble balancing guns/perks/ego powers as is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slay View Post
    I AM NOT SUGGESTING LOCK ON/SNAP. I AM SUGGESTING TO DECREASE THE SENSITIVITY A BIT WHEN DIRECTLY LOOKING AT AN ENEMY.

    THIS IS FOR CONSOLES! NOT THE PC!

    Tired of people not reading the thread before posting... please do. You make yourself look idiotic if you don't honestly.


    Now, before people bash on me, and make assumptions saying i'm 'bad at pvp lol' I want to say that there is obviously more important matters right now, but I feel this would be a nice addition. I also would like to say I play this game on the XBOX 360 (Wish I could double underline that). Obviously everyone on the PC will bash on me and I get that, I'm just stating exclusively for console gamers the sensitivity is different, joystick aiming is worse and sniping is near impossible, reasons below.

    Aim assist is enabled in the game, I don't see why it isn't in PvP honestly. Sniping in PvP proves a lot more of a challenge in PvP than in any other game i've honestly played, reasons being more than the inaccurate physics of the bolt action snipers in this game (a current bug) but also that if you start shooting someone they roll around like crazy. I'm suggesting that Aim Assist be added, because at this very moment I see everyone is complaining about shotguns. You know the reason why? Because no one gets kills with assault rifles typically, more kills are made with shotguns. They aren't OP (Get ready to bash me on this too) but they simply do their job. It's close quarters expect to die to a close quarters weapon in a close quarters area. Don't get upset, it's natural. But I think in general on consoles it is too hard to aim at people sprinting and rolling with regular rifles.

    Edit: In general, I do not mean a type of 'Snap'. I am referring to if you are directly next to someone, so if you did a circle he would encompass where you would look in that 360 degree spin. Let's say you do a spin, and when you are looking directly at him in that circle range your sensitivity decreases a bit to compensate. This way you will technically still have to aim at him, but it's harder to get off the enemy when you're attached. This can be avoided by rolling still, as you'll be off them but it would be nicer for snipers and long distance kills, and balance the shotgun problem we have currently. This is a clarification, i'm not up for adding a 'Snap feature' when you zoom in with your scope near him like there is in PvE
    Example here:


    Let me just quickly jot reasons there needs to be aim assist
    • Putting aim assist in the game then taking it out of PvP gets players out of their comfort zone, it should either be in all cases or not at all.
    • Inaccuracy of snipers already ( a current bug with bolt action snipers)
    • There is no zoomed sensitivity settings
    • People roll around like crazy after getting shot with a sniper or any gun
    • Bunny hopping... Self explanatory.. Just like rolling it is hard to keep sights on them
    • Pretty good amount of recoil with assault rifles, lmgs which make long distance killing very hard with them, unless you use overcharge.
    • Players run faster and roll faster than the current zoomed sensitivity, making it hard to stick on them, and to combat this many spray hip fire which is ineffective.
    • Console gamers have a disadvantage already with aiming in comparison to PC
    • Why do you think infectors are so popular on consoles? Let's be serious here, they aren't THAT good.

    I want to say that I do not blame trion for this, they are game makers and great game makers at that, but they do develop PC games typically, Defiance is I believe their first console MMO and console game. They didn't think of console aim assist with all the other overwhelming changes when it comes to PC and console. I just hope we all be mature, and if you feel like you want aim assist for consoles, then say so. This way it may be accepted.

    Go ahead, bash me all you want. I'm waiting. I still reserve the right to speak my opinion.
    I play on the 360 and i have to just say no to all of this. The reason i say this is simple PvP is a game mode where you should win based on your skill. and a big part of skill is being able to actually aim. They shound't make it easier to aim. also rememvber this game has greandes, rocket launchers, and so many easy way for cheap kills w/o needing to aim. If you have iuuses aiming you sholnd't choose to use a gun that requires the most aim (sniper rifle)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyripax NeoPrime View Post
    Me so pro? Nope. I said im one of the ones who has trouble with pvp yet I know aim assist imopinion mind you, just my opinion that it doesnt belong in pvp as its supposed to be skill vs skill. not sayin the op is totally wrong, and I do respect his opinion. Just throwin the skill factor of pvp out there since thats essentially what pvp is all about. Try what I do ....practice in pve without aim assist then get better and better then play pvp, im tellin ya its far more rewarding not having the training wheels on. But yes, to each thier own.
    my bad lol. i took a quick glance and spoke to soon.
    i do think the option is fair though to have a choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bradael View Post
    I play on Xbox as well and I have no problem in taking peoples face off ...... That is not needed in the game its dumb in CoD and it will be not welcome by anyone with any type of skill on the sticks .... I know I can go toe to toe sticks v mouse .. Just stick to PvE
    Right. the only thing they need to change is add a sensativity slider so that people with faster reactions can set it to there speed. ( keep turning timer the same but make it to where we can aim ore precisly and please fix the bug with sniper rifles im tired of having my crosshairs on somones chest and not even getting a hit bc i dindt let the scope stay for more than2 seconds. )

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    Ok then im just going to abuse shotguns and explosives till it changes. im done with ARs. And im going to move in a way that its impossible to kill me without a shotgun. rolling around. bunny hopping. its gonna suck but ill do it. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by SOUL TECHNIQUE View Post
    Ok then im just going to abuse shotguns and explosives till it changes. im done with ARs. And im going to move in a way that its impossible to kill me without a shotgun. rolling around. bunny hopping. its gonna suck but ill do it. lol
    Good job in trying to make a change to fix the problem that you hate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Honved View Post
    Good job in trying to make a change to fix the problem that you hate.
    maybe if i abuse it they will fix it.

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    if you need aim assist get off a shooter platform, do not blame your lack of gun skill on not having an aim assist, mines off in the PvE game as well, so no Aim Assist, anyone who uses an aim assist ( aside form a small child or such ) is in the wrong type of games to be playing, can't shoot straight? don't enter PvP and get newbed, i own all day with pistols AR's hardly ever use detonators or shotties, so quit *****ing cause you suck and get better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xXChromeGhostXx View Post
    if you need aim assist get off a shooter platform, do not blame your lack of gun skill on not having an aim assist, mines off in the PvE game as well, so no Aim Assist, anyone who uses an aim assist ( aside form a small child or such ) is in the wrong type of games to be playing, can't shoot straight? don't enter PvP and get newbed, i own all day with pistols AR's hardly ever use detonators or shotties, so quit *****ing cause you suck and get better.
    Your right i suck. and CoD isnt the most successful competative title to date. because it has aim assist. (everyone loves to dog call of duty but it IS the most successful title in existance.) Your all right.


    Also after looking at your profile every game you have listed as an intrest has a strong aim assist. especially battlefield bc 2.

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    To be fair CoD has a lot of fan boys.
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