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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by BeckAltarr View Post
    Guessing again...

    You want to know how much of the games "lore" language is used? Like the Swears? Shtako and such? We use it in our dramas and character shows. As for the Legacy of Game World language, if you look at Battle Star Galactica, people still use the word Frac instead of the full on F-Bomb and that show was from the 70's and the reboot of the show in more moderntimes only reinforced it with a younger generation. It's part of pop-culture now.

    Where the Lore of the game fails to explain things we have create our own stories and lore to explain them. Much of it is based on the actual lore and sometimes we have to take some liberties to make it work together a bit better. We do have the original Lore writers as our friends, Tony and Matt, so we pass ideas past them and see how it works with their intended vision as well and they have helped us improve on out own story lines as well. Safe to say SyFy butchered the original lore/story that was much better than what we got in the end.

    Depending on what additions are made to lore and story in 2050 well continue to blend in our own form of story telling using the lore available.




    Guessing this has to do with our past vs more current emergence. Our height was with Defiance originally and there is a story as to why we moved off, as did most of the community that was here at one point as well. It had a lot to do with bad communication from Trion to it's community and how one of it's chief Community managers had a personal vendetta against members of the community, including myself, and found excuses to "manage us" that the rest of the community seen the truth of. It became very toxic and they were fired and things settled down, but the damage was done. Many people and clans pulled up steaks and left for other games where the Community Management wasn't so hostile and adversarial.

    K-TAM probably produced it's best work when Deifance first launched and we hope to regain that again. I had a lot of fun creating characters and story's based on the lore and events in game. We had some talented people around who did great jobs playing characters and voicing roles and we know there are more out there.

    We do hope that Mobi and Trion will review things and lift their ban hammers on some accounts that were unjustifiably banned. Or, at the very least support the efforts of community groups, like K-TAM and do interviews again with us and the community who will tune us in to listen. We hope they wont just bar the doors with their backs against it. We've decided to give Trion another chance to be good community stewards and invited them to have a chat with us about any concerns they may have and talk about the past and what happened. It's not all very clear on the forums as it also had dealings with that GCM out side of Trions website/services. Things got heated for sure and time has past and there is a new beginning coming so we hope the slate can be washed clean.

    We would like to know before 2050 where we are going to stand with them so we know if it is worth putting community resources into it. People donate to us and commit their time and energy as well and we don't want that to be wasted if we are not going to be welcomed. For now, I think it's a wait and see and I am being tolerated because I am very outspoken and I speak up where I see unfairness and misapplication of rules etc.



    I like many others have no idea exactly what you are saying, though I am slowly, I think, figuring it out. It's a fun challenge. Even if it is an epic troll. I am working out your RP backstory I think.

    If I understand what you are saying here "will K Tam Radio's Campaign/Operations, (Adversary Along Side World Ark News), take place ON/IN World Of Defiance, not Outside The Ark?"

    You are asking if we would work with or against World Ark News which is something you want to have going on for 2050? We are happy to work with the other community web sites. Like any world I would expect there to be other sources of news and media, in character and out of character.

    I don't for a moment think that the E-REP had the same media as the Votanis Collective. I see it as CNN vs Fox really. Different points of view on the same facts. A lot of bias added in for drama = ratings. I guess where it really factors in is are you going to be print/website news or youtube/video or go the radio rout? I could see a K-TAM reporter citing their sources from anywhere, including World Ark News. We could work together on an extended story line even that is a subtext of the game.

    For example, we tried to push Nora Shandu, the current Governor of Paradise and Varus Soleptor, Robber Barron into an election race. Shandu for re-election and Varus deciding he could do a better job and have people play roles speaking as their spokes people as we would never get the original voice actors. It was a story line we were working on before we decided to move on from Defiance originally. I'd still like to do that because I think it is a natural progression for those characters. I would enjoy working with another community media to flesh that out and have different angles to the story and such.

    So, in short, I would rather work along side than adversary in/on Defiance officially, though in character our organizations may be more like E-REP vs Votanis Collective. Though we don't much like the E-REP at K-TAM. We could work together in the appearance of being adversary for the entertainment benefit of the community.

    I think your Hint refers to the TV show's story line about Datak Tarr and how he creatively found passage although he was of a lower cast and such and the adversarial nature of he and his relationships? Kind of read that as Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra which I think is the style of role play you are aiming for.
    Before World Of Defiance was established as a Test Beta, a Group Of gameplanet Minds got together to create a Second Understanding within World Of Defiance, in case the First Understanding's Transport was highjacked. Within The Second Understanding, every Lore Explained it's self, including a Map that picks up where the Show Ended....

    We're not part of World Ark News. We ally with the Organization established in the Region Of Shondu Consulated, after Elections Ark Wide, we're sparked after the Defeat Of Stone City, electing Dole Goldfish.


    Spinning Front Page, a matter of The Ark Grand Hall putting their backs against the wall mentally, wasn't about K-Tam Radio or Central Horizon, but rather Seats Of Timely Responsiblities going Rogue at the Height Of Different Organizations on the Ark, or Outside the Ark, which we, Central Horizon and K-Tam Radio, wasn't apart of, since it's not our Organization's Interests, but rather the opposites Interests of our Respectable Establishments...(Nor we're we addressing The Ark Grand Hall)


    Central's is observing, you're seeking to piece together World Ark's Chronicles, Documented and Undocumented, so Our Game Class will side aside, while you Fraction Up To Date....(Give another Hint on the last Paragraph you addressed....)


    What Extention besides Ark Terminals and The Ark-Net, didn't advanced to Ascension (on the Ark), - (Tricky Add On)-, which Oceans K-Tam Radio existed Publicly, before Private Theaters?

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by BeckAltarr View Post
    Ok, so I think I am solving your mystery... Language. Duh, was your biggest hint.

    I am going to guess you took one of the Votan languages and made a google translator for it. Few people likely know that at least 3 of the Votan languages are fully developed. Like Klingon, could be spoken out loud 100%. Like any other language.

    You have put in what you want to say in Votan, then re-translated it back to english. A lot would get lost in that translation and it would make sense as to why it is broken and not very clear. If I remember right, one of them didn't use the same sentence structure as the rest. Indogene maybe, have to look it up.

    So your first question was if I or others at K-TAM spoke any of the Votan Languages on the radio. Not just the cuss words.

    No, none of us do. We did talk about it and looked into it, but at the time there wasn't an easy way to do it fast enough that sounded real enough, they were also still creating the language as the show was being produced. But we would not be against it.
    I read the First Ark Dictionary, and Reality's Dictionary, about Six or Seven Times, where now i may humbly freestyle (without it), thus learning, though exist A, E, I, O, U, Y, and sometimes W meanings, (accordingly to education mis-educating), existed Fantasy, Illusion, Brain Of Thought, Conversation Line Of Thought, Unconscious, Sub-conscious, and Blank Meanings, (many more), and Mixing many Gameplanet Languages first, (through RPGing First), learnt World Of Defiance's Languages by feeling Planet Ark out, Transcended World Ark's New Storylines, (Godmother and Godfather by the Ark's Old Souls), successfully surpassing both Fades of Reality, and World Of Defiance...

    We agree as well. Great World Ark Conversion rarely, in need of Extra, when Dialogue is most fitting, member in it's proper songs.

    (It's been a Broadway Musical Indeed

  3. #23
    OOOH..... Game VS TV? And the divergence of the two.

    I don't take the TV show as Cannon past the first season. Second was meh and the last season was total B.S. in my opinion.

    No we will not have Omec at K-TAM. They don't exist. Was just a McGuffin to end the TV series in such a way that it couldn't be rebooted and it screwed with the MMO because can't have those characters make appearances in the Game anymore either, if we follow their lore on SyFy.

    Which I don't. I hope the game doesn't either. SyFy really screwed Trion over Defiance. Game needed at least 6 months more in development and SyFy rushed it. We never got the cross interaction promised either. Nothing in the game or in the TV show really made any difference in either.

    I need to go so I'll try to figure the rest out. I see you have really tired to simplify things for me to help me understand more better (bad english intended) and I appreciate that. I'll be back later. I am building a glossary for myself already. I'll get this yet.

  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by BeckAltarr View Post
    OOOH..... Game VS TV? And the divergence of the two.

    I don't take the TV show as Cannon past the first season. Second was meh and the last season was total B.S. in my opinion.

    No we will not have Omec at K-TAM. They don't exist. Was just a McGuffin to end the TV series in such a way that it couldn't be rebooted and it screwed with the MMO because can't have those characters make appearances in the Game anymore either, if we follow their lore on SyFy.

    Which I don't. I hope the game doesn't either. SyFy really screwed Trion over Defiance. Game needed at least 6 months more in development and SyFy rushed it. We never got the cross interaction promised either. Nothing in the game or in the TV show really made any difference in either.

    I need to go so I'll try to figure the rest out. I see you have really tired to simplify things for me to help me understand more better (bad english intended) and I appreciate that. I'll be back later. I am building a glossary for myself already. I'll get this yet.
    (Sips some Tea Listening to K-Tam Radio agreeing with Beck Altarr....)....,Take all the time you need. No worries at all.`

    (Portal Opening, Jade Walks through the Portal Returning for Ark, on the phone talking with Ark Nephew....)

    Jade:
    " Now that's what i call a Great World Ark Conversation. Nephew, we was hot stuff!"


    (Chattering minked on the other end, with the Portal Ark closing..)


    Jade:
    " What you mean we wasn't hot st......."


    (Signal lost each other through Portal Extraction...)

  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by BeckAltarr View Post
    OOOH..... Game VS TV? And the divergence of the two.

    I don't take the TV show as Cannon past the first season. Second was meh and the last season was total B.S. in my opinion.

    No we will not have Omec at K-TAM. They don't exist. Was just a McGuffin to end the TV series in such a way that it couldn't be rebooted and it screwed with the MMO because can't have those characters make appearances in the Game anymore either, if we follow their lore on SyFy.

    Which I don't. I hope the game doesn't either. SyFy really screwed Trion over Defiance. Game needed at least 6 months more in development and SyFy rushed it. We never got the cross interaction promised either. Nothing in the game or in the TV show really made any difference in either.

    I need to go so I'll try to figure the rest out. I see you have really tired to simplify things for me to help me understand more better (bad english intended) and I appreciate that. I'll be back later. I am building a glossary for myself already. I'll get this yet.
    And so you may romance with World Of Defiance, Upbeat, there is a way to revive The Show Defiance. Found it about an Ark-Year, almost two years ago, that can include Defiance's Allstar Supporting Cast....( And it's a LONG, LONG, Story..

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    Wow. I can actually understand him on this thread.

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  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by JOCCO5150 View Post
    Wow. I can actually understand him on this thread.
    Yeah, starting to put pieces together.

    Reminds me I need to start writing some new Defiance Themed Ads. I have a ton, but be nice to have some new ones to go with all the other game themes we have going on.

    Lore is a conversation I enjoy having and We have the Lore Man himself for Defiance that comes around from time to time. I hope Trion hires him back.

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by JOCCO5150 View Post
    Wow. I can actually understand him on this thread.
    It is very interesting and fun trying to figure this all out. Keeping us here at K-TAM busy trying to decipher it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushede Jade View Post
    Before World Of Defiance was established as a Test Beta, a Group Of gameplanet Minds got together to create a Second Understanding within World Of Defiance, in case the First Understanding's Transport was highjacked. Within The Second Understanding, every Lore Explained it's self, including a Map that picks up where the Show Ended....

    We're not part of World Ark News. We ally with the Organization established in the Region Of Shondu Consulated, after Elections Ark Wide, we're sparked after the Defeat Of Stone City, electing Dole Goldfish.


    Spinning Front Page, a matter of The Ark Grand Hall putting their backs against the wall mentally, wasn't about K-Tam Radio or Central Horizon, but rather Seats Of Timely Responsiblities going Rogue at the Height Of Different Organizations on the Ark, or Outside the Ark, which we, Central Horizon and K-Tam Radio, wasn't apart of, since it's not our Organization's Interests, but rather the opposites Interests of our Respectable Establishments...(Nor we're we addressing The Ark Grand Hall)


    Central's is observing, you're seeking to piece together World Ark's Chronicles, Documented and Undocumented, so Our Game Class will side aside, while you Fraction Up To Date....(Give another Hint on the last Paragraph you addressed....)


    What Extention besides Ark Terminals and The Ark-Net, didn't advanced to Ascension (on the Ark), - (Tricky Add On)-, which Oceans K-Tam Radio existed Publicly, before Private Theaters?
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  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Bushede Jade View Post
    And so you may romance with World Of Defiance, Upbeat, there is a way to revive The Show Defiance. Found it about an Ark-Year, almost two years ago, that can include Defiance's Allstar Supporting Cast....( And it's a LONG, LONG, Story..
    That would be interesting. Would have to do some kind of time shift deal though. Since most of the characters are dead or gone. Rather just ret-con the SyFy lore altogether and expand on the game lore. Though the Grid and Shrill should be ret-conned for 2050 and have better stories of introduction.

    So much more could be done with the raiders and Volge lore still.

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