Single player missions - don't do this anymore!

[Ellienna]

I think it should be kept in mind, by the devs, that the game is likely to be played by a wide variety of gamers, both those who come from solo FPS and those who come from MMOs and want to group up.

In order to survive the game has to make money and has to attract a wide player base. There should be the mechanics in place to allow for different gaming styles. Many coming to this game simply won't have the time to spend hours trying to beat Joe or Nim. The game stands a high chance of losing those players.

The option to solo or group for all missions should be added as soon as possible.

[chefwhitey]

Honestly, I completed every mission in the game, including all the side missions, and there is only a handful of instances that this happens. I honestly think its around 5 times. But thats it! I wish it would phase your groups better though when you help your friends do missions that you already completed!

[Kaeichi]

I would have to agree that adding co-op to the story missions would be highly appreciated. For the record I have beaten all of them but with the upcoming patch that allows you to replay main missions this option would be great. Add a co-op matchmaking option for these dungeons once the quest becomes available, allow players to go to the marker for the solo instance or go to matchmaking for the co-op instance.

It adds to the list of co-op maps and allows them to tweak said maps for co-op while adding even more replay value for group dungeons. Seven dungeons only at the moment is a little small. Adding these would expand that list without having to create new content from scratch.

[Conneri]

Well the game is an mmotps.....and it has just a few solo missions, but alot of multiplayer content. I mean, the challenges are also solo, most people in other mmo's solo alot of side quests. Also, an mmo doesnt have to be strictly multiplayer.

I just wanted to say while I agree that some solo content is fine (challenges, side quests, etc.), it absolutely does not belong in the main storyline. The episode storylines I could see possibly since they are sort of optional content, but it's a stretch even for those. While an mmo doesn't need to be strictly multiplayer, it shouldn't prevent people that aren't good at solo play from experiencing the almost the entire story of the game.

[Fore]

I think it should be kept in mind, by the devs, that the game is likely to be played by a wide variety of gamers, both those who come from solo FPS and those who come from MMOs and want to group up.

In order to survive the game has to make money and has to attract a wide player base. There should be the mechanics in place to allow for different gaming styles. Many coming to this game simply won't have the time to spend hours trying to beat Joe or Nim. The game stands a high chance of losing those players.

The option to solo or group for all missions should be added as soon as possible.

First of all I have yet to see an adult targeted mmorpg which doesn't have both solo and group only content and while yes you can group doing solo content in most mmos they don't offer reverse scaling of raid content so one person can solo it for the same rewards .... It would be stupid and yes grossly unfair to raiders if they did that (I'm not condoning this so flamers please don't go there)but to say a lone wolf player has all the same options in an mmo is just bs.

Which brings us to my main point why can't the gaming community let the devs make the game they want to make. They went and found the money to make the game, understand the limits of its programming, have full access to the business model which will dictate game support and development, and as an industry whole are both responsive to and desire community feedback.

Not every game has to appeal to everyone and perhaps they don't want the widest audience possible niche games and products tend to do extremely well (ie Starbucks anyone ?) I'm sure they could widen their target markets by adding fantasy elements, magic and oh yeah zombies too but why should they? It's their game, their vision and while I hope that they listen to community feedback regarding making Defiance be the best "Defiance" it can be. I also hope they find the strength to ignore the vocal minority who so often cause games to lose their souls in the impossible search to give everything to everyone.

I just did Joe the entire mission including the fight with Joe took me 20 min. The only ways it could take hours is if you don't understand any videogame mechanics (I remember contra and castlevania having harder mechanics for some bosses) or you don't understand active combat systems( you Have to dodge....) which are going to be the future of mmos. 536 ego with lvl 5 in my 2 primary weapon types using purple gear not orange. Tip reccomend a fast shield recharge is desirable for this fight over pool size

[Igoma]

this game defiantly needs option to group or solo not forced solo missions

[Blak]

The main issue is that they are forcing solo missions during chains you started as a group.

So for example:
Mission 1 in a chain you can do outside in a group
Mission 2 you go inside a base and can still fight in a group
Mission 3 suddenly is a loading point INSIDE an instance that is solo only.

The real joke here is that the levels they use for the solo content are the CO-OP MAPS!
They normally just start you in a different location of the map and have you fight your way to the starting point of the CO-OP version.

Now if you want to have solo content in a game like this you just ha...... wait a min........ YOU ALREADY HAVE SOLO CONTENT.... Rampages / HotShots / Time Trials,... ok you get the point.

In short NONE of the story driven content should be solo only content.... like... at all.....ever.
Keep in mind I am not saying you should HAVE to make a group of 4 people to do story content. I am simply saying that you should never limit a players options on being able to choose to do it solo or with a group.

My wife and I decided that we wanted to just pile drive through the story content. So we just focused on the story missions back to back ( You can just log out if you don't see a story mission icon on the map and when you log back in it will be there, then just have you friend warp to you and they will see it. No need for doing side missions ) What we noticed is that as soon as you start to push across into San Fran a lot of the story content was solo content..... mind you these are areas of the map that are outside.... not even instanced zones. So it is almost as if they are insulting you by saying this is a pure MMO.


Don't get me wrong I love the game... ego rating like 890 or something now... but they really need to tighten up some of the MMO aspects of this game cause I am tired of hearing my wife scream at her screen about how the NPCs have perfect aim... ( They sorta do when it comes to Dark Matter lawl )

[EdgeTW]

I was hoping they'd correct this mistake in the big April 15th patch, but from the looks of the patch notes that didn't happen. My friends and I are not looking forward to playing more missions apart.

[DeMoted]

I hope they keep doing this so a few people don't force them to change.

[EdgeTW]

I hope they keep doing this so a few people don't force them to change.

"A few people". Are you citing the result from a poll that asks the question "Do you prefer your MMO content to support co-op play as an option?". Because I seriously doubt just "a few people" would be on board with that. I think maybe closer to uh.. everyone.. would say "yes" on that.

Except for Bitter Bob. You know, that guy that has no friends and is certain he never will, and thus wants everyone to play alone like he must because of the cruel cards life has dealt him.

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I simply can not understand why anyone would want to force other players to play alone if they prefer playing with friends. In an MMO. Of all places. Are you kidding me?