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    I think it is not needed. At start. Think about it.....The power lvl is apart of the kit you want to trade everyone will be after the higher lvl gear through trade to get to top power lvl without having to do no work other then trade. I think trade should be granted to all players when thay are top rank.

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    It is definitely something i would like to see

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    Why start two threads about the same thing?
    Defiance is gone. Gamigo has been "not neglecting" the game for over a year, yet there's nothing new except for low effort arkfalls and bitshop items.
    I know it might be hard to quit a game you loved for years but you have to understand that it won't get better. Ever. If you like the game in it's current state, then sure, keep playing it. You're enjoying yourself after all. But if you aren't, don't hope for a better future for Defiance. Because it won't come.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CJ BLAZ3 View Post
    I don’t get it who is freaking out? Trios wants feedback, we just played the beta and wanted to voice our opinion. I thought that’s what the forums was for, because you won’t need it to post trades for 2050. While the game is being developed and tested, we stand a much better chance getting what we want before the release by popular demand. Trion doesn’t have a great track record for fixing bugs and fulfilling promises. Why the criticism and hate I will never understand, that’s prolly why most ppl don’t even bother to post on here any more.
    I agree with all of this. I have played defiance 360 since the launch in 2013. I know all bout the ends and outs on how they develop and maintain their game/system. Their track record isnt too good however, coding is difficult. Especially for a mmo game. Thousands of factors play key roles into what works and what doesn't. There isn't any need for hate or any of the sorts. This is a community that loves trion regardless of their faults. Let' all Try to make defiance 2050 the game defiance 360 should of been. Lets reach further towards the finish line and not trip and fall short of what could be the greater mmo in history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ghost Within View Post
    Trading is a huge part of defiance. The community thrives on buying/selling. Look at defiance 360 for instance. Most of us wouldn't be here without collecting certain types of weapons and advancing into the danger zone with more powerful weapons they couldn't pull themselves. The weapon/shield pool is so large that getting the items you want as a reward is next to impossible making trading viable more than ever.


    With so many possibilities to obtain different weapons, the chances of obtaining certain weapons that others will already have will be like finding a needle in a hay stack. They will either be sold to the vendor or auto-broken down when people could actually use them.

    We need trading in defiance 2050.

    I played beta Saturday and Sunday. I pulled a total of 6 ojs and not one of which I enjoyed. I pulled the following items:


    auto-detonator
    auto-fragger
    sub-carbin burst
    rhino regen ark - 100% health regen
    tachyon 20% shield capacity
    t5 ar power bore


    I did not want any of these. The entire beta I wanted to pull and try even a green sawed off. I never pulled a single one and I typed into chat /played and verified I had put into the game over a day worth of time.


    Trading is a must have as people will get fed up and stop playing the game after not getting what they want after so many tries. Imagine playing a game for a year (defiance 360) and never getting an item you have been wanting yourself as in pulling it as a reward. You see someone who has it and no longer wants it and you are able to get it from said person. It makes you feel happy does it not?


    Fast forward to defiance 2050 and that same story happens however, you aren't able to get the item any other way other than getting it as a reward yourself. Imagine how it would make you feel after disappointment after disappointment. If we could only trade, this would eliminate these issues. The same no trading system even effects people who like to collect in game.


    We all have collections we like to improve more and more. We keep the collections on other charcters we refer to as backpack toons as they have the inventory slots not being used. We use a trusted friend to trade items to and then transfer them to your backpack toons. Without trading, this becomes obsolete. It literally forces players to purchase inventory slots if that will be a thing in defiance 2050 as it is in defiance 360.


    This measure basically means defiance 2050 turns into a pay to win game. I am meaning that without trading, inventory slots become filled up more and more to hold items people want to keep, and once they fill up, our backpack toons are no more forcing us to buy more slots. unless we sell to vendor or break them down which the community simply won't do. The devs openly stated in the image attached to this post that "There is no pay to win in Defiance..." but sadly this route = pay to win.
    well said! I have said it before and I will say it again no trading and or clan cap of 300 means no 2050 for me.

    They did say no trading at launch hopefully a trade system is put in place later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ghost Within View Post
    Trading is a huge part of defiance. The community thrives on buying/selling. Look at defiance 360 for instance. Most of us wouldn't be here without collecting certain types of weapons and advancing into the danger zone with more powerful weapons they couldn't pull themselves. The weapon/shield pool is so large that getting the items you want as a reward is next to impossible making trading viable more than ever.


    With so many possibilities to obtain different weapons, the chances of obtaining certain weapons that others will already have will be like finding a needle in a hay stack. They will either be sold to the vendor or auto-broken down when people could actually use them.

    We need trading in defiance 2050.

    I played beta Saturday and Sunday. I pulled a total of 6 ojs and not one of which I enjoyed. I pulled the following items:


    auto-detonator
    auto-fragger
    sub-carbin burst
    rhino regen ark - 100% health regen
    tachyon 20% shield capacity
    t5 ar power bore


    I did not want any of these. The entire beta I wanted to pull and try even a green sawed off. I never pulled a single one and I typed into chat /played and verified I had put into the game over a day worth of time.


    Trading is a must have as people will get fed up and stop playing the game after not getting what they want after so many tries. Imagine playing a game for a year (defiance 360) and never getting an item you have been wanting yourself as in pulling it as a reward. You see someone who has it and no longer wants it and you are able to get it from said person. It makes you feel happy does it not?


    Fast forward to defiance 2050 and that same story happens however, you aren't able to get the item any other way other than getting it as a reward yourself. Imagine how it would make you feel after disappointment after disappointment. If we could only trade, this would eliminate these issues. The same no trading system even effects people who like to collect in game.


    We all have collections we like to improve more and more. We keep the collections on other charcters we refer to as backpack toons as they have the inventory slots not being used. We use a trusted friend to trade items to and then transfer them to your backpack toons. Without trading, this becomes obsolete. It literally forces players to purchase inventory slots if that will be a thing in defiance 2050 as it is in defiance 360.


    This measure basically means defiance 2050 turns into a pay to win game. I am meaning that without trading, inventory slots become filled up more and more to hold items people want to keep, and once they fill up, our backpack toons are no more forcing us to buy more slots. unless we sell to vendor or break them down which the community simply won't do. The devs openly stated in the image attached to this post that "There is no pay to win in Defiance..." but sadly this route = pay to win.
    I pulled 3 of those same ojs. The loot must have been really limited. I agree trading needs to be added.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ttoomm View Post
    I think it is not needed. At start. Think about it.....The power lvl is apart of the kit you want to trade everyone will be after the higher lvl gear through trade to get to top power lvl without having to do no work other then trade. I think trade should be granted to all players when thay are top rank.
    They would still have to play to get items to trade to other people.

    Unless you're saying people will just be handing out free items to new people to power level them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chump Norris View Post
    They would still have to play to get items to trade to other people.
    Unless you're saying people will just be handing out free items to new people to power level them.
    but why would a higher level player want with low level gear? No higher player will take it. So its not needed yet. Not hard to understand if you think about it. And yes all friends that we know would get a easy time leveling from freebie . Just imagine you never played defiane at all and you seen this lvl system with trade Wouldn't you think its wrong? Just get trade out your mind and you will understand

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    Quote Originally Posted by ttoomm View Post
    but why would a higher level player want with low level gear? No higher player will take it. So its not needed yet. Not hard to understand if you think about it. And yes all friends that we know would get a easy time leveling from freebie . Just imagine you never played defiane at all and you seen this lvl system with trade Wouldn't you think its wrong? Just get trade out your mind and you will understand
    If people want to trade to new friends who just joined the game, what issue is that?? People did and do it all the time on defiance 360. I don't see the whole issue that you say is here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteStrike View Post
    Why start two threads about the same thing?
    Better question:

    Why hasn't a moderator merged the two threads?
    Defiance 2050 = 2018's worst cash grab. 100% fact.
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