Hackers in PVP

[Abatu]

the killfeed shows what wepaon is used and the cam pans to the person who killed you so in fairness its pretty easy to know how you were killed when you die. just saying

the cam is a "live" "here's what they are doing not and what direction they are going" thing tis not hard to switch to a weapon to "lie" to the other players and make them "think" you are using a weapon or strat you aren't

the killfeed (i assume you are talking about the killer/weapon/target thing) does not show headshot weapons used..
headshots are their own icon
in the time it takes to switch to the cam one can swap weapons for a second or two (most people don't stay on it till a forced respawn occurs) then switch back killing with your weapon of choice and repeating the whole process over and over and over

if he actually stayed with the feed until the game forced him to respawn and the indivudal who shot him made another kill in the time he was dead..then yeah that is proof

however there are key words that indicate this isn't the entire truth
1. he said that they got a height advantage and tried to keep it (sniper 101 in shooters)
2. all their kills were headshots (some people actually do train themselves to never miss on games dedicated snipers usually are required to do such in competitive multiplayer because one miss can very well give the opposing side the opening it needs to hurt you greatly
3. two people in varying locations sounds like cycling to me.. take your shot then move location so that you never make a shot from the same place twice (countering is harder)

so against a skilled set of players...it's not quite that easy to determine what weapon they are using to actually make their kills

[Drall]

This guy Krakus (Tome-e) has been hacking all night on the PC. How long does it take for this **** to get fixed? Its not even like the person is being subtle about it, just 1 shotting people at all ranges with a combat shotgun or pistol, score is around 2x-x(1-3) every single game. Just soloing whatever team they are against...

[AngryBucket]

I saw the same 4 hackers on PC europe for 4 days straight reported them with ingame support ticket got my clan mates to report them as well(the ones i was grouped up with when we ran into them) 4 days later got a reply from Support desk... with your usual copy paste msg saying we will look into it, havent seen those 4 hackers since then. Thumbs up from me trion even tho i could wish for quicker reaction but data needs to be collected i guess.

now if only they would remove the infector blob blocking my view when i zoom with a LMG(with no scope on)

[sammael]

So annoying to see how many ppl actually "deffending" hackers, i know for a fact that there are alot of diff hacks for this game such as damage, inf amo, no recoil, no spread for shootguns, enemies shown on the map even if they are using cloak and prob alot more small things, the best thing trion could do is to add punkbuster, that will show thoose ****ty hackers and let us who whants a fair game to play on our own

[Vikingkid3]

You people need to stop blaming the devs for these problems. The game's release was tied to a tv show, they could not delay it and it was released before it was ready. You are essentially paying for early access to a beta. These problems will get fixed, just be patient. For what they were given Trion has done a wonderful job, it might take a couple months but these problems will be addressed. The game feels like a rush job because it was a rush job, sit tight.

[Cerealkilla]

Side note, whats with the crappy music on youtube gameplay videos?

[Aeekto]

So annoying to see how many ppl actually "deffending" hackers, i know for a fact that there are alot of diff hacks for this game such as damage, inf amo, no recoil, no spread for shootguns, enemies shown on the map even if they are using cloak and prob alot more small things, the best thing trion could do is to add punkbuster, that will show thoose ****ty hackers and let us who whants a fair game to play on our own

they are just like this:

[Irres169]

they are just like this:

LOL.


There will always be hackers on internet games until you ban fat kids.

[Irres169]

You were all thinking it!!

[Vikingkid3]

the release date has nothing todo with this... this isn't some minor bug, it's a fucing god damn ignorant mistake that should naver happen in 2013, not even in 2000 ffs

The release date has everything to do with it. This isn't a major budget AAA game. There is a reason that the chat system is almost non-existent, that there is so little content etc. Because the devs had to prioritize what features they developed. What online competitive pvp game has ever been released without a slew of hackers just after launch? I can't think of any. The larger developers have a greater ability of dealing with them, but they always exist. In defiance's case, the developers also have a very large portion of the game to develop and debug on top of the influx of hackers. What you see in-game is in no way a finished product, Trion has stated as much and it is to be expected. In time they will be able to fix these issues. And threads like this help. They help detail the exploits and hacks that people are using in game which can help the dev team address them. Hate on the hacks and hackers all you want, but Trion deserves none of the hate. This is part of the experiment and they deserve our patience.