people with no founders pack have access!

[drackiller]

Are they getting classes unlocked (other than the starter) like head start or just the one like free to play?

Nope, nothing like that, it`s like if people are starting to play on Tuesday, basic stuff.

[LAPDAlonzo]

how are they playing? i see no play button option on steam or see the game on the launcher.

[DEATHBRINGER210]

Nope, no free XP boost.

read post#20
http://forums.defiance.com/showthrea...88#post2104288

[TheNeoReaper]

The beta client updated to the full release.

[fm0987]

Honestly why even buy the founder pack? Its just same old defi with a rehashed weapon and class system. I've already spent enough on the original, I, for one, won't be buying into this crap again. For a 3 day head start and demolition class? Isn't everything going to be unlockable through gameplay anyhow? I'm glad its come to 'next gen' but tbh I don't really care for the changes from what I've seen so far. There was nothing wrong with the old ego grid, upgrading, and weapon modding how it was before. The new class system seems a bit over simplified and the new way of upgrading weapons I really don't care for. I'd be much happier if they let us keep our old toons and go from there instead of pushing everyone back to square one.

[fm0987]

I had all but demolition unlocked i think and only have the beta.

[Sliverbaer]

The beta client updated to the full release.

Must be it. PC version update was small, didn't have to download full client. I deleted it off my PS4 and don't see it to download yet. (Without payment.)

[LAPDAlonzo]

Can someone tell me how are people playing without the founders pack? I'm on pc, how to do it

[PurePlayinSerb]

this is damn ridiculous, my friend that didn't purchase the founder pack installed and is playing right now while my self and others that paid for access are still getting the failed to log in error. way to go trion way to go i cant believe how horrible this launch experience has been, especially for paying customers.

SNITCH!!!!

it's a free to play game, stop crying over spilled milk, they dont get founder bonuses so big deal they got game early, lucky them

[fm0987]

Must be it. PC version update was small, didn't have to download full client. I deleted it off my PS4 and don't see it to download yet. (Without payment.)

If you had the beta, it should be in ur ps4 library.