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    in regards to cheaters make sure you have all the facts before reporting people

    just a heads up if someone has a high power rating and using a "gore augur" its not cheating the gun hits it target and literally does a damage over time nano ability that can and will kill a lot pretty fast, only thing is the gun is also a prototype and rare as hell

    reg mobs die within seconds, higher guys like monarchs, tankers(when hit on the tank), and the like usually take 4-7 shots to kill(some less some more it depends on the higher mob you are after) and draw insane agro

    bosses, it hits most and only counts the initial damage done, hellbug bosses on the other hand it depends on which one

    haven't tried it yet in coops but I know in pvp its a one hit kill because players even with decent shields will get one shotted

    so before you go and accuse someone playing legit check their gear and ask them how its modded and which stats they have on the gun(legit players don't mind sharing their builds as it helps all as a whole)... I know a few players in this boat and if trion asks I will gladly give them names but I wont call them out here

    to be honest though the gun they are using I wont be surprised it gets nerfed like "THATS that" did

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    It likely will, just like all the prototypes are likely to get nerfs. They stated that they don't want the prototypes to be "better" than any generic weapon. Which seems odd to me as the ones that aren't link to zone pursuits can be very hard to get. I've gotten 3 Venom Spitters and a Gore Auger on my character while another clan member who has more play time then I do and has been specifically farming the enemy types hasn't had no luck.

    I can only imagine the frustration of someone who keeps farming for hours on end to get a prototype, only to get the nerfed and "meh" feeling version. Kinda like the That's that feels right now. It's not a "terrible" weapon by itself, but it is when compared to other rocket launchers. I can kill most enemy types that That's that could with 2 or 3 mag generic rocket launcher, but That's that requires a reload. It's really sad. The major trade off to That's that was it's long reload time. Now it has a long reload time and can't dps effectively as any of the other rockets. :-(
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    Im sure they have a system in place that will determine real cheaters and those reporting butthurt.

    The amount of reports they get relating to PVP alone must be overwhelming.

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    after seeing the vid for the flying one shot killer in pvp on youtube I haven't bothered to want to touch pvp in this one yet

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    I’m certain bringing attention to the weapon like this will surely get it nerfed. This post appears masked by a warning to have all the facts and instead of targeting pvp in general the post is directed towards a specific weapon. Suggesting to check a players gear but still only referring to a specific weapon. I personally don’t have that weapon yet and I’ve stayed away from pvp. Too many bad memories from OG Defiance pvp. However, I do agree that a player should have proof a player was playing unfairly. Which is why the dev team ask for video footage. Photos won’t work.
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    I have given up trying to farm for them. Over 100 hours gameplay lots of massacres of species and only ever had 2 Venom Spitters drop. Now I just play normally and hope by chance one drops.

    Will drop when it drops :/
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    Players report leads to nowhere. It's not really your job to hop over obstacles to prove each individual. It's much harder to collect all the "evidence" they want then actually cheat.

    One or two reports should be enough to implement the defense so that kind of cheat never happen again.

    If they only get banned it's pointless wasting time reporting, both yours and theirs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elenoe View Post
    Players report leads to nowhere. It's not really your job to hop over obstacles to prove each individual. It's much harder to collect all the "evidence" they want then actually cheat.

    One or two reports should be enough to implement the defense so that kind of cheat never happen again.

    If they only get banned it's pointless wasting time reporting, both yours and theirs.
    If you see someone cheating and use nvidia share, it is very easy to press a button and record, then send to Trion. Not saying go look for them. But if one crosses ones path its worth getting a quick bit of evidence, trying to get username too. I saw a video yesterday that someone posted of 2 peeps using rocket launchers that fired like SMG's. If anything it is worth a try.
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    Yeah, I'm willing to let anyone with plausible deniability off the hook. But anyone using long range 'shotguns' to 1HKO everything while jumping around like the Flash is gonna be observed by me until I catch their name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanglant View Post
    just a heads up if someone has a high power rating and using a "gore augur" its not cheating the gun hits it target and literally does a damage over time nano ability that can and will kill a lot pretty fast, only thing is the gun is also a prototype and rare as hell

    reg mobs die within seconds, higher guys like monarchs, tankers(when hit on the tank), and the like usually take 4-7 shots to kill(some less some more it depends on the higher mob you are after) and draw insane agro

    bosses, it hits most and only counts the initial damage done, hellbug bosses on the other hand it depends on which one

    haven't tried it yet in coops but I know in pvp its a one hit kill because players even with decent shields will get one shotted

    so before you go and accuse someone playing legit check their gear and ask them how its modded and which stats they have on the gun(legit players don't mind sharing their builds as it helps all as a whole)... I know a few players in this boat and if trion asks I will gladly give them names but I wont call them out here

    to be honest though the gun they are using I wont be surprised it gets nerfed like "THATS that" did
    Well I'd be surprised if it doesn't get nerfed after this post lol. Well done! "Applause"
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