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    "An Insult To Veterans"

    As a veteran who spent many, many hours on Defiance ( both 13 and 2050), I have to say this:
    Please stop using this phrase! ("An insult to veterans!")
    Would you like to know why I am saying this?
    Because NOONE CARES.
    You are not a n00b or a veteran, you are a consumer and you will be treated as such. Being a veteran doesn't give you more of a say in matters, IT DOESN'T MATTER AT ALL.
    it is high time that we speak with our wallets to get what we need instead of trying to convince Trion that our opinion counts more because we have a lot of time invested in this game.
    Just think about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crixda View Post
    As a veteran who spent many, many hours on Defiance ( both 13 and 2050), I have to say this:
    Please stop using this phrase! ("An insult to veterans!")
    Would you like to know why I am saying this?
    Because NOONE CARES.
    You are not a n00b or a veteran, you are a consumer and you will be treated as such. Being a veteran doesn't give you more of a say in matters, IT DOESN'T MATTER AT ALL.
    it is high time that we speak with our wallets to get what we need instead of trying to convince Trion that our opinion counts more because we have a lot of time invested in this game.
    Just think about it.
    You make a very good point and yes new players are just as important as veterans because if you think about it we were all new at some point untill we became veterans in my opinion the only real comparison is between the paying and the non paying customers and yes i am one of the paying customers but i still see the value of the non paying customer after all it is a free to play game but why not help out if you can every litte Bit (yes pun intended) counts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draven Hybrid View Post
    You make a very good point and yes new players are just as important as veterans because if you think about it we were all new at some point untill we became veterans in my opinion the only real comparison is between the paying and the non paying customers and yes i am one of the paying customers but i still see the value of the non paying customer after all it is a free to play game but why not help out if you can every litte bit (yes pun intended) counts.
    Most of the new players if not half disrespect the veterans or the people who played longer.
    "If Defiance had more content , we wouldn't have time to troll"
    "Guns shots sound like cans being thrown at the floor"
    "Defiance is just Warframe but without the flips"
    "Only Disappointments get transferred"
    "Having to deal with this companie's rng structure gives worse odds than the powerball!"
    "Hey Trion! Thanks for that time machine called Defiance 2050! Just one problem -It only goes backwards!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kedarthebest View Post
    Most of the new players if not half disrespect the veterans or the people who played longer.
    Yes maybe that's true but we are the older and wiser veterans after all and we know better so the only thing we can do is show them how to do things the right way.

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    Sigh.. could've kept my clean post by the way.
    To repeat, I haven't had any problems from new players and you guys must not misinterpret respect for "my opinion matters more than yours" or "respect my authority".
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    I dont even know what a veteran is... People throw that term around alot. Some people claim veteran and their requirements dont go beyond playing the original.

    The term is something people gave themselves, which makes it irrelevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Floross View Post
    Sigh.. could've kept my clean post by the way.
    To repeat, I haven't had any problems from new players and you guys must not misinterpret respect for "my opinion matters more than yours" or "respect my authority".
    I haven't had any problems with new players either but that doesn't mean that it doesn't happen. I don't think i'm anymore important than anyone else i think we should all show respect to each other and i don't matter more than anyone else.

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    Also Ive seen "veterans" disrespect more players then the other way around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kniferun View Post
    I dont even know what a veteran is... People throw that term around alot. Some people claim veteran and their requirements dont go beyond playing the original.

    The term is something people gave themselves, which makes it irrelevant.
    Yeah you maybe right maybe throwing around that title isn't worth the trouble it causes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kniferun View Post
    Also Ive seen "veterans" disrespect more players then the other way around.
    Really if that's true then that's a shame because i've been playing since 2015 and i would never be disrespectful to anyone on purpose i didn't then and i wouldn't now.

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