Heres one for you no one has reported yet......

[Calm like a Bomb]

So, no, this community is awesome and loves this game, much more than Trion deserves it.

[c_e_r_u_l_e_a_n]

Same bugs that were in OG Defiance still exist in Defiance 2050. 4 year old bugs STILL EXIST.

[Jhakl]

"Biggest issue I see with big games like this getting released is, that developers generally don’t expect the number of players that will be playing to cause so many issues. Also want to mention the fact it’s because of exploiters and cheaters that are causing Trion such a hard time."

Now 1st i love the game. Played D13 ps3 NA and now on ps4 NA. I have dropped some hate and love... BUT... this one answer I can't stand! It's always this... why do you even waist your time developing a game you don't expect players to come and play??? Dumb cheap lame. Sorry but damn... really? Isn't the point to make a game you love, to remake a classic porting to the next gen systems to push yourself and company into the future and fell the love of the so many players playing??? (Place palm on forehead now and kick yourself)

I skipped over Ultimate online for personal reasons but started my MMO life with Asheron's Call and many many many many WoW and many many many... I'm a firm believer in a launch date starting the true open beta stage. Call it whatever it's open beta for a usual 6 months run and blam it plays smooth clean and 80% of all the bugs r smashed and new systems r designed to catch and fix even faster.

Everyone races to the end game and cries it's garbage because they didn't get i beat it first boy scout badge. Yup lag. Yup glitches. Yup unbalanced. Yup broken. Yup it's open beta. But stop for the love of all holy and unholy gamers in the world, stop with " We didn't expect so many players to play at launch" molarky. It's a corprate decision to drop it on a date ready or not and usually above the heads of the Devs. But life is life. They need the pay check to feed thr kids too. If they voice the truth too much inside thr walls for thr love of the game developing it, it's a simple eye brow raise and corprate hands them the pink slip. Many cringe at all the issues and they hear your cries but it always come down to the mighty dollar.

But back to the point. "We never expected..." has been said by every game developer since WoW. On every release... that is what gets old to me and can push my money away. If you didn't "expect it" then it's all been a big waist of time and that belief proves there is no care to continue or listen.

Ok, I'm out... got a Snuffleupagus called the Continu...something something to never drop sniper rifle prototype to once again spend countless hours and thousands killed to not get. I actually was ready to give up even with stories by devs that the % is the same across crap. But i saw one the other day ingame. Heard it's broken but it's my goal. Others i could care less for... well fix the clip size on the m212 demon... that's a joke firing vs reload time. Bye-Bye