The Fundamental Problem Of Critless Weapons.

[AZRA2050]

Currently there exists a major issue and that is with weapons that do not do critical hits. The fundamental problem of critless weapons is that it essentially nulls your killing power against mobs that have critical hit spots and slows your pursuit&weapon skill progression. For example; Tankers, Tankers are a raider enemy who only take damage via the tank on there backs and there open face when weakened. Now when using a shotgun which is the most commonly used weapon you cannot even damage Tankers anymore because the tank on their backs is recognized as a critical hit spot. Another example; Tempest the new Blast Rifle style prototype which is now my favorite gun and my best gun on my second character is a great example of balanced yet powerful prototype. Tempest only has two flaws low ammo capacity which is fine because that puts it inline with other Blast Rifles, and no critical hits which makes no sense giving that all other AR's can do critical hits. Now this is sort of a continuation of my recent bug report about Tempest, but I was using Tempest to try to kill a Tanker and I noticed it did no damage at all and this was because its a critless weapon. How is the player expected to kill tougher enemies with there best weapons if said weapon doesn't do damage at all? How is the player suppose to improve there pursuit progress&weapon skills if they can't use their best weapons to do so?

[DEATHBRINGER210]

a blast rifle never have been one to hit a crit spot they have always been low crit weapons. or any ar . only weapons that hit the crit shoots have always been pistols and snipers . looks like they dont want people to spray and pray with them. i hope if the ever bring back mass blasters. they take away those guns crit .

[AZRA2050]

a blast rifle never have been one to hit a crit spot they have always been low crit weapons. or any ar . only weapons that hit the crit shoots have always been pistols and snipers . looks like they dont want people to spray and pray with them. i hope if the ever bring back mass blasters. they take away those guns crit .

I understand your point but this is beyond PvP concerns. My post is primarily focused on a PvE aspect, I had removed the second paragraph of the post because I thought I had explained well enough. I will digress further to clear up any misunderstandings on what I mean about the mechanics of weapon crits. Pre patch The Motherlode was a huge problem for awhile it was the strongest and most time consuming enemy in the game. To fight The Mothelode then I used my sawed-off on its knees(crit spot) and its open core(crit spot) to kill The Motherlode my most efficient way. Post patch Motherlode is nothing now yet it is still a giant walking critical hit spot, but with weapons like shotguns which is the most used weapon type in the game a player can not kill enemies which only take damage via crits spots. Its beyond PvP and PvE at this point, this issue affects the game's progression system as a whole.

[Fluffyroo]

What about all the useless crit mods too? They need to be changed to something else.

[DEATHBRINGER210]

i never said anything about pvp...................so you want shotguns and blast rifles to do head shots in pvp?

[AZRA2050]

i never said anything about pvp...................so you want shotguns and blast rifles to do head shots in pvp?

Just making sure what I post on here clearly represents what I want to express. Shotgun criticals enabled me to have a TTK of two seconds against most players when done in conjunction with my strafing technique. Why not bring back criticals? It would give enemy players more reason to express their negativity towards me post match, which makes me try even harder.

[Fluffyroo]

Just making sure what I post on here clearly represents what I want to express. Shotgun criticals enabled me to have a TTK of two seconds against most players when done in conjunction with my strafing technique. Why not bring back criticals? It would give enemy players more reason to express their negativity towards me post match, which makes me try even harder.

Go try tonight in pvp with your shotgun. See if you can get past the turkeys to land a shot. Crits on shotguns atm are the least of our worries.

[AZRA2050]

Go try tonight in pvp with your shotgun. See if you can get past the turkeys to land a shot. Crits on shotguns atm are the least of our worries.

I play matches everyday and I spend obscene amounts of time thinking about how to improve my gameplay its no big deal.

[DEATHBRINGER210]

because it doesnt give players the ttk their attacker

[AZRA2050]

Go try tonight in pvp with your shotgun. See if you can get past the turkeys to land a shot. Crits on shotguns atm are the least of our worries.

Dealt with far worse than Turkeys. I have played many many matches against glitchers and exploiters and that has yet to deter me from queuing up for Shadow Wars or Quickmatches. This ain't my first rodeo.