Hotshots and rampages do not fit in 2050

[ICantAim]

Keep hotshots, get rid of tarr contracts , bring back tarr crates

I have no clue wtf a tarr crate is but I have to agree with the whole statement just because it contains "get rid of tarr contracts".

[Kylarran]

Ryu, you stated the following (I've parsed out a lot):

... perhaps YOU need to pay attention to the forums more. Players hated them in D13 and they hate them even more in 2050. You’re the exception.

The majority of the community don’t like them and never wanted them as contracts.

I completely disagree with your conclusion. The principle reason is, it only SEEMS like the majority of people posting are hating them, only because they are vocal and post on the forums. Sure, as well, they are vocal in agreeing with you in zone and clan chat.

However, I suspect the vast majority ark hunters, whom you don't hear from because they aren't complaining and aren't posting, accept these contracts as they are and just deal with it.

If you only listen to the haters than your focus and perception is skewing your results. Writing off their opinion, as you did with Ctss3xxy, with a contemptuous dismissal only proves the point.


Sure, there are some that still aren't adjusted correctly to 2050, so a few of the Tarr circuit times are nigh impossible to get Gold and the scoring impossible as well on some Defiant Few, like Kent Docks. Some of us who may have gold only got it on a rare double scoring weekend. We've certainly stated them plenty in posts and one day, hopefully, the dev's will find it worth correcting those.

[Guider]

Sure, there are some that still aren't adjusted correctly to 2050, so a few of the Tarr circuit times are nigh impossible to get Gold and the scoring impossible as well on some Defiant Few, like Kent Docks. Some of us who may have gold only got it on a rare double scoring weekend. We've certainly stated them plenty in posts and one day, hopefully, the dev's will find it worth correcting those.

I would like to make a quick interjection here. Gold on Kent Docks is now more possible. I have not tried it with a full team (since the update), but solo I was able to score around 31.5k...and that from what I recall was without using the opportunist score bonus. I also saw someone score Gold on it with I am guessing a full team... If anything, may have to use something not fire nano and weak damage (smg or pistol), to get as much score with teamwork and opportunist as possible.

I do not yet know if everyone can gold it at once though, but I would have to guess yes.

[Kylarran]

I would like to make a quick interjection here. Gold on Kent Docks is now more possible. I have not tried it with a full team (since the update), but solo I was able to score around 31.5k...and that from what I recall was without using the opportunist score bonus. I also saw someone score Gold on it with I am guessing a full team... If anything, may have to use something not fire nano and weak damage (smg or pistol), to get as much score with teamwork and opportunist as possible.

Good point... I've forgotten about the scoring change as it applies now to DF too.

Perhaps everyone using unmodded purple techmags only with electric nano? Get your Fire Rate for opportunity scoring. Overall with 4 the kill pace should be measured enough to keep the multiplier going. Just remember to kill off the little guys before taking out the biomen, so they die with 3x multiplier.

[Ryu Soba JP]

Ryu, you stated the following (I've parsed out a lot):



I completely disagree with your conclusion. The principle reason is, it only SEEMS like the majority of people posting are hating them, only because they are vocal and post on the forums. Sure, as well, they are vocal in agreeing with you in zone and clan chat.

However, I suspect the vast majority ark hunters, whom you don't hear from because they aren't complaining and aren't posting, accept these contracts as they are and just deal with it.

If you only listen to the haters than your focus and perception is skewing your results. Writing off their opinion, as you did with Ctss3xxy, with a contemptuous dismissal only proves the point.

I’m not sure where this “vast majority of ark hunters” are that you’re referring to but most of everyone on PS4 NA knows everyone on PS4 NA and all are pretty vocal about not ever wanting time trials or mini games as contracts. So it SEEMS like the majority of players on PS4 NA agree that these should not be mandatory. It also SEEMS like the players on XB1 are in agreement. It SEEMS like the majority of players who posted on the forums when we all found out these were contracts also agreed these should not be mandatory. The ones who are defending it are the exception and from what I’m reading that’s 2 players. Now, I haven’t been on PC live server in quite a while but last I checked steam numbers there isn’t enough players there to be called the “vast majority of ark hunters”.

Having an opinion is fine but I read what Ctss3xxy posted as an insult and it isn’t the first time this user has insulted a member of this community. So that is why I replied the way I did.

[Ryu Soba JP]

Good point... I've forgotten about the scoring change as it applies now to DF too.

Perhaps everyone using unmodded purple techmags only with electric nano? Get your Fire Rate for opportunity scoring. Overall with 4 the kill pace should be measured enough to keep the multiplier going. Just remember to kill off the little guys before taking out the biomen, so they die with 3x multiplier.

I believe one of the main reasons most players fail these arenas is due to their pacing. So good point to mention that. Many players just run in, kill fast and then wonder why they didn’t get past bronze. Especially with Dy’Dekuso’s Chamber.

The only issues I had with arena’s in 2050 was the change to make Thorn Liro solo only and the Quantum archers in the Thorn Liro arena. Beyond that they are fine. I don’t play them because I don’t have a need for the currency. Which is not the case for mini games.

My issue with arenas in D13 are I have Gold in all of them but every single DLC trophy on PS3 NA is bugged. I have all the in game achievements showing I earned them but the PSN trophies are unattainable. An issue that I’ve had several conversations with Trion employees throughout the years with no resolve.

[KevinVonBach]

I have no clue wtf a tarr crate is but I have to agree with the whole statement just because it contains "get rid of tarr contracts".

They were crates with the Tarr Traxx logo on them, and we had to use an action prompt on them in order to clear the daily.

[David Irwin]

First off no single player speaks for the whole community, i wish forum posters would remember that, and also keep the topic on game and not about other forum members. Removing hotshots and rampages from contracts would not remove them from the game, so those who like them can still play them all they like. 2050s diverse classes makes the game playable in ways that simply were not considered when the mini games were created years ago. I think its pretty reasonable to want content thst fits 2050.

[ICantAim]

They were crates with the Tarr Traxx logo on them, and we had to use an action prompt on them in order to clear the daily.

So basically, free daily? I would prefer that to the races (I would take anything instead of the races), but still isn't really new content. Still isn't really content tbh.

Also, on the subject:
-Hate tarr contract. Never do races. Still have 0 tarr rep;
-Don't like hotshots much, especially saviors and bolinas snipers. I do them sometimes but not often;
-Love rampages. Especially when bouties are, for example, kill scrappers, kill using meelee, chain kill, and a daily or weekly is smash rampage.

[Johnny Stranger]

So basically, free daily? I would prefer that to the races (I would take anything instead of the races), but still isn't really new content. Still isn't really content tbh.

Also, on the subject:
-Hate tarr contract. Never do races. Still have 0 tarr rep;
-Don't like hotshots much, especially saviors and bolinas snipers. I do them sometimes but not often;
-Love rampages. Especially when bouties are, for example, kill scrappers, kill using meelee, chain kill, and a daily or weekly is smash rampage.

100% the same....there are two or three races I may do if they are the daily, other than that, not a chance...