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    Quote Originally Posted by wilks View Post
    Ok if gaming is a profession, what does it produce? Every other profession is based on a product or service. At the end of a game tourney, what is the end product or service? A sense of accomplishment for the winner? How is that something that can be made into a real profession if it produces nothing? Its for FUN. It will NEVER be a real profession unless you are the ones making and selling the game. Or the ones holding the tourney and collecting the entry fees and sponsorship money.
    The end product is advertising by the companies sponsoring the event, and entertainment to the viewers, just like any sporting event.

    football works the same way, except they hire people to maintain their teams, pay their salaries and training, instead of leaving the individual athletes up to the tasks, because it's currently more porfitable. e-sports could eventually be doing the same thing.
    Your Challenger won't drive? You're probably in the passenger seat.
    Can't sell/delete an item? Check all of your loadouts, it's likely still equipped.
    Auction house? Why? It'll just render bits purchased lock boxes pointless, and weapons are mostly equal anyway.
    Gear/enemy progression? No thanks, it'll only render 90% of the content trivial when you reach the highest zone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironhands View Post
    The end product is advertising by the companies sponsoring the event, and entertainment to the viewers, just like any sporting event.

    football works the same way, except they hire people to maintain their teams, pay their salaries and training, instead of leaving the individual athletes up to the tasks, because it's currently more porfitable. e-sports could eventually be doing the same thing.
    Exactly, and the people watching never get paid. Just like the people playing games will never get paid to just play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wilks View Post
    Exactly, and the people watching never get paid. Just like the people playing games will never get paid to just play.
    People will be paid to do anything if there is a way to profit from them doing it.
    Your Challenger won't drive? You're probably in the passenger seat.
    Can't sell/delete an item? Check all of your loadouts, it's likely still equipped.
    Auction house? Why? It'll just render bits purchased lock boxes pointless, and weapons are mostly equal anyway.
    Gear/enemy progression? No thanks, it'll only render 90% of the content trivial when you reach the highest zone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wilks View Post
    Ok if gaming is a profession, what does it produce? Every other profession is based on a product or service. At the end of a game tourney, what is the end product or service? A sense of accomplishment for the winner? How is that something that can be made into a real profession if it produces nothing? Its for FUN. It will NEVER be a real profession unless you are the ones making and selling the game. Or the ones holding the tourney and collecting the entry fees and sponsorship money.
    Entertainment. Lot's of people watch LoL tournies.

    edit: If wilks is trolling, well done mate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ironhands View Post
    e-sports could eventually be doing the same thing.
    They already are, professional teams are often now cross-platform and multi-game. They'll have various management aspects to the team of people who are either ex-players or just good business people.

    Quote Originally Posted by wilks View Post
    Exactly, and the people watching never get paid. Just like the people playing games will never get paid to just play.
    Your arguement is now totally different to what you have been bleating on about. You're now saying that spectators dont get paid to watch sports, how did I never notice that fact before?

    Just to re-iterate some things:

    Quote Originally Posted by wilks View Post
    Ok if gaming is a profession, what does it produce? Every other profession is based on a product or service.
    Quote Originally Posted by wilks View Post
    If it were it would be a real profession like in sports. If you make a pro team, as i said before, you get a salary.
    So, by your own words, what do professional 'sports' teams produce? You're verging on the edge of being unbelievable and losing your witty-troll status.

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    Entitlement

    When you beat super mario back in the day what did you get as a reward for beating the game? Satisfaction.

    Stop whining that you didn't get enough of a reward. If playing the game and beating a hard boss isn't its own reward to you, then you shouldn't be playing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blinkwise View Post
    When you beat super mario back in the day what did you get as a reward for beating the game?
    World select, and the opportunity to play it again. How much was Super Mario Bros when it first came out on the NES? $50? Nice number to remember for people complaining about lack of content at $60 lol
    Your Challenger won't drive? You're probably in the passenger seat.
    Can't sell/delete an item? Check all of your loadouts, it's likely still equipped.
    Auction house? Why? It'll just render bits purchased lock boxes pointless, and weapons are mostly equal anyway.
    Gear/enemy progression? No thanks, it'll only render 90% of the content trivial when you reach the highest zone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironhands View Post
    People will be paid to do anything if there is a way to profit from them doing it.
    That would be awesome. If there really were paid positions to play games and not just in tourneys. I would be e-mailing resumes right now.

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    This group mob attacking wilks reminds me of those poor guys I left to the hellbugs and raiders yesterday when doing Waist Deep and Murder in Madera 3. Kinda felt bad about that then, sorta feel bad about this too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wilks View Post
    That would be awesome. If there really were paid positions to play games and not just in tourneys. I would be e-mailing resumes right now.
    Twitch.tv?
    Your Challenger won't drive? You're probably in the passenger seat.
    Can't sell/delete an item? Check all of your loadouts, it's likely still equipped.
    Auction house? Why? It'll just render bits purchased lock boxes pointless, and weapons are mostly equal anyway.
    Gear/enemy progression? No thanks, it'll only render 90% of the content trivial when you reach the highest zone.

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