So, I Just Beat Defiance. Well, Errr, Thanks For Nuttin Trion...

[wilks]

Twitch.tv?

They dont hire. More tourneys.

Edit: i did watch the starcraft tourney there, was interesting. But the best paid ppl were all behind the scenes.

[ironhands]

http://www.twitch.tv/p/partners

[wilks]

http://www.twitch.tv/p/partners

Also not being paid to play. This link is for commercial advertising.

[Anim]

They dont hire. More tourneys.

Edit: i did watch the starcraft tourney there, was interesting. But the best paid ppl were all behind the scenes.

No they really werent, people who organise these things may get what like $40-50k a year on a good salary, the people playing the game are on twice that at least if you take winnings in to consideration but on probably $30-40k just to play.

[wilks]

No they really werent, people who organise these things may get what like $40-50k a year on a good salary, the people playing the game are on twice that at least if you take winnings in to consideration but on probably $30-40k just to play.

30k is the poverty line nowadays. The ppl running a multi million dollar tourney are surly making more than that.

[ironhands]

Also not being paid to play. This link is for commercial advertising.

no, it's not.

you make your channel, and can earn revenue on the advertising that plays on it, or, create PPV options. Thus, you play and stream, and get paid from the advertising or users paying for the content.

[Major Nelson]

Yay another thread like this with disillusioned fanboys defending grinding to the death. I've picked this post out randomly from all the flawed opinions of how much great content this game has.

You're comparing Skyrim to Defiance. If Skyrim had multiplayer it would be more of an MMO than Defiance. Skyrim has; Crafting, Trade hubs, actual repeatable quests, changing scenery, professions, skill trees. None of which Defiance has.

But that's besides the point, we're talking about Defiance here.

The side quests: Run out after a short while if you're even prepared to do the same tedious quest based in a different location. Side quests are literal clones of earlier quests once you hit SF.

Dynamic events: Nothing dynamic about them. The hellbug major arkfall will always spawn the same bugs in the same order at the same health %'s no matter how many people.

Pursuits: Your 'content' pursuits involve literally just holding down the trigger at either an arkfall or a spawn door until you finally get 10,000 kills on the relevant mob. Thats not content, thats lazy development.

Reputation: You're limited on faction rep gain by the single daily quest per faction and one weekly. This is an artificial handicap to slow down people and force them to do other things despite them wanting to get rep up. Again this isnt content, lazy dev.

Max every gun type: Ties in with the pursuits, a pointless endeavor that yes whilst it gives you an extra few % on your melee damage and things is as hard as simply pressing the trigger for a few hours. Doesnt matter what you're shooting at, or where, they ditched this in other MMO's because people would find some unkillable target and leave it on autoattack for a few hours to level up the most pointless stat in the game.

Your defense for content is actually defense for the laziest developers we've seen in recent MMO history, putting mammoth grinds or artificial road blocks on players is just plan awful.

Honest post, good points and a different way to look at the development of the game, i recently made a thread (in my sig) you should check it out im trying to get the devs to see it that will make this game absolutely perfect

[wilks]

no, it's not.

you make your channel, and can earn revenue on the advertising that plays on it, or, create PPV options. Thus, you play and stream, and get paid from the advertising or users paying for the content.

So I have to be an entertainer and have a show. Still not being paid to play. But it is a good point I'll say.

[ironhands]

So I have to be an entertainer and have a show. Still not being paid to play. But it is a good point I'll say.

what part of this don't you get? You stream yourself playing a game. They pay you if enough people are actually watching it. Paid to play.

[Anim]

what part of this don't you get? You stream yourself playing a game. They pay you if enough people are actually watching it. Paid to play.

Unfortuantely this wilks is actually too stupid to reason with now, the arguement has completely changed from his first claim and second, now third. Time to just ignore the moron.