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    Quote Originally Posted by ICantAim View Post
    In all fairness, it has to be pay for something. It's either pay to play, pay to win, pay for vanity, or ad-supported. Pay for vanity alone and ad-supported are out of the question because of the small player base. We didn't pay to get D50, so all that's left is pay to win.
    its still pay to win when they stated it wouldnt be, if the player base is small why keep it up? how is still up ? is it that the d13 players patron pass money is going to 2050 instead of fixes for d13? if so thats pretty messed up. because its been a very very long time since d13 has got any fixes or improvements .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lake Superior View Post
    The chance must be ridiculously low. But ya. It can happen.
    Then I stand behind the meme that I originally posted.

    #shambles
    #cashgrab
    Defiance 2050 = 2018's worst cash grab. 100% fact.
    Medjed: "Trust me, we will do our best to avoid any unanswered questions."
    Why add content to either game when people routinely gamble on bit store trash? 4Head

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICantAim View Post
    We didn't pay to get D50
    My PSN wallet respectfully disagrees.
    Defiance 2050 = 2018's worst cash grab. 100% fact.
    Medjed: "Trust me, we will do our best to avoid any unanswered questions."
    Why add content to either game when people routinely gamble on bit store trash? 4Head

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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinVonBach View Post
    Then I stand behind the meme that I originally posted.
    #pay2win
    #shambles
    #cashgrab
    we wanna see updates and content .

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEATHBRINGER210 View Post
    we wanna see updates and content .
    Riiiiiiiiiight...

    Defiance 2050 = 2018's worst cash grab. 100% fact.
    Medjed: "Trust me, we will do our best to avoid any unanswered questions."
    Why add content to either game when people routinely gamble on bit store trash? 4Head

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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinVonBach View Post
    Riiiiiiiiiight...

    stable servers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEATHBRINGER210 View Post
    stable servers?
    Defiance 2050 = 2018's worst cash grab. 100% fact.
    Medjed: "Trust me, we will do our best to avoid any unanswered questions."
    Why add content to either game when people routinely gamble on bit store trash? 4Head

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEATHBRINGER210 View Post
    its still pay to win when they stated it wouldnt be, if the player base is small why keep it up? how is still up ? is it that the d13 players patron pass money is going to 2050 instead of fixes for d13? if so thats pretty messed up. because its been a very very long time since d13 has got any fixes or improvements .
    I don't know which money goes where, but I suspect they keep D50 up because the price to keep it running is very minimal, so it's still positive for the company's bottom line. The cost to run the game on an AWS is minimal and it's relative to the amount of players on the server, so as long as they don't put any money on it (other than the AWS), D50 is probably earning-positive. Same for D13. So they're trying to monetize that asset, and they're probably succeeding because they don't spend a dime to fix anything. And let's be honest, they know as well as we do that even if they spent tons of money to get every bug fixed, the player base would merely stop dwindling, it wouldn't start increasing.

    I don't think people understand the business model of gamigo. People think gamigo is a game company, but it's not. They're more like the corporate raiders who buy depreciated assets at distressed prices, fire most of the staff (definitely fire everyone in R&D), and just finish selling whatever is left of inventory before closing the shop.

    What's a lot more puzzling to me is who spends actual money on this game and why? At this point in the lifecycle of consoles, you can get pretty good games, new or used, for about 10$ each. I fail to see how a 25$ voidrunner pack (for example) makes any sense compared to 2 or 3 full (good) games. And the PC version of D50 might live for a while, but I don't see the console versions getting ported to the next generation, and when the next consoles come out and people upgrade, the player base will dwindle even more. At some point, even the low costs of cloud servers will cost too much for the revenue that so few players can generate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinVonBach View Post
    My PSN wallet respectfully disagrees.
    If you paid to get D50, you got swindled, cause the game is free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICantAim View Post
    If you paid to get D50, you got swindled, cause the game is free.
    Hence the reason for the "2018's worst cash grab" comment in my signature.
    Defiance 2050 = 2018's worst cash grab. 100% fact.
    Medjed: "Trust me, we will do our best to avoid any unanswered questions."
    Why add content to either game when people routinely gamble on bit store trash? 4Head

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