When you read something as absurd as "the classes are badly done with few differences between them" on the biggest website of my country, you start wondering if they really played the game.Originally Posted by VolDeVie
Also, on eurogamer "sometimes the vehicle doesn't move". Yeah, well, next time, don't take the passenger seat. It may work better.
Haha Brilliant!
Not exactly what I would call a basis for a review there, but if you want my take on it just as a quick example of what I think here goes (and this is just a summary of my thoughts on Defiance from launch on the PC).
Performance - I was lucky enough not to have the patcher issue that many experienced at launch and this is something that is likely to impact a portion of the review score. You can't grade on what will be but what is. This was a huge problem for many players and it had a pretty negative impression right out of the gate.
Once you get into the game, performance was pretty smooth on the PC though I hear it wasn't quite so good on the Xbox. So again, performance and downtimes are all key portions of a review even at launch.
Inventory & UI (PC Perspective) - In this case I will say that from an MMO and PC perspective the inventory and UI is a bit of a mess. Just trying to sort through my items is a pain and breaking down every junk item extremely slowly takes way too long. This could be simplified in one way by removing the "Start Process" step and just click breakdown and confirm or a bulk breakdown option.
Even for veteran players like myself navigating the UI is more complicated than it needs to be and wreaks of a straight console port without much of a thought on how to make it better for PC users.
The chat system was and currently still is a disaster. Hardly anyone uses the text due to its poor implementation and rapid disappearance, the voice has gotten better but still is temperamental and lacking a basic push-to-talk feature making me want to stab myself in the ear with a pencil when someone joins my group and keeps huffing in the microphone.
While the chat system will get some (and I use this loosely) improvements next week with text staying on for more than a couple of seconds now, it still lacks some basic needed PC features that help establish communities and serve as a chat medium while not grouped.
Speaking of grouped, there really isn't a huge deal of things to do as a group outside of a few co-op maps, ark falls when they happen, and PvP. Much of the game is based around fighting alone with the side missions being an obvious problem for many groups since there is currently no way to share missions or see missions that your groupmates are working on. The fact that many times I have been tossed into a different phase as someone I was grouped with is a staggering oversight and extremely frustrating.
That's just a few things that I consider needs improving that are not the "normal pew pew" or "grind grind". But they are things that need work to help establish a lasting community for this game and likely some other things observed in some reviews.
Don't get me wrong, it can be a decent TPS but its MMO side could use some polish and I'm sure it will get it over time.
Just my 2 Scrip.
Name a difference in the classes that isnt starting weapons .....
I have noticed a few things and assumptions based on false concepts. First name a class. Your initial selection is not a class selection, it is a background selection which is mostly cosmetic in nature. Defiance doesn't actually have a class selection because it is not a traditional RPG. You have a background choice and then a Primary power choice. Neither of these are a class. Also I have notice Anim you are especially negative towards people who have positive things to say about this game. If you dislike it so much go play something you enjoy.
This game generally has had fewer bugs on start up than any other MMO I have played from Beta before.
SWTOR, Champions, Star Trek, the Secret World, DCU, WAR, WOW:twotlk, WOW:Cat, WOW:MOP, Diablo 3, Auto Assault, Rifts, and several others.
I can say that this game is OK, and fun it does not suck or fail to deliver what it promises to be, sadly it is not Amazing at the moment but then we haven't seen an episode of the TV show, so it is had to tell how that will change the feeling of the game. Personally after last years disappointment with ME3 I find this game to be a refreshing take on the 3rd person shooter RPG. Also after reading the reviews the biggest negative is the game doesn't bring anything new to the genre which is funny since only a small handful of games fall in the third person shooter RPG genre, and even fewer are MMOs (Tabula Rasa), if you compare other third person shooter RPGs Sure Mass Effect is the best, Defiance is not far behind, Although the list is rather small. So stop trying to compare this game to MMORPGs because it is not, also don't compare this game to First Person shooters because it is also not one of those.
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"I feel my best when I'm happy."
Oh yeah, definitely. I can name dozens of things I dislike about Defiance. This said, it's refreshing to see a gameplay-driven MMO for once: I mean, the majority of MMOs that claim to have action combat do not distance themselves from the Everquest or World of Warcraft formula enough. I feel a few reviews miss the point of the game and attempt to review it as an MMORPG (given that Defiance is classless game with horizontal scaling, the comparison does not work). This said, one of the most fair reviews of Defiance that I've seen was actually that Angry Joe video. He did give the game a 5/10 but he also highlighted everything the game did right. By contrast, I fail to understand the criticism raised by a couple of reviewers that the combat is less impactful than Borderlands. I love Borderlands 2, I have about 75 hors logged in that game, but I do not believe that Defiance has inferior shooting (especially when compared to Borderlands 1).
Anyway, we can discuss reviews all day but the point I wanted to make is this. When it comes to reviews, there are clear double-standards. A lot of middling, utterly forgettable triple A releases often get a 'free' passing 70%. The average review score for IGN is 69% and the average score for Game Informer is 73%. I find it unfair that a lot of frankly **** games can get away with more problems than Defiance has. Hell, the reviews fro BRINK are a little more positive than those for Defiance and BRINK was virtually unplayable on a lot of AMD-powered GPUs at release. To summarize, I played a lot of worse games that earned far superior review scores.
"The pleasure is to play, it makes no difference what you say."
- Motörhead - Ace of Spades
How can someone name the difference between classes in a game that wasn't designed to have classes? There is nothing about classes in game, in the website information, and in interviews and blogs.
Didn't read all the way through but, bad reviews, because it's an MMO, which is always an unfinished product, it's a living evolving product that requires updates, patches, content updates, etc etc...
It's not your typical MMO, so people try to compare with WoW or BL1 and 2 or CoD and that just doesn't work here.
Reporting needs to be objective, not based on past experiences with other games that aren't even in the same genre.
Every review I've seen has said it is strangely addictive with plenty of room for improvement and it is in the hands of a capable company that will take advantage of that room.
As far as I'm concerned this is a good thing. Also a lot of the worst reviews actually mistook functions they didn't understand for bugs/other functions or critiqued its MMO features as if it were a TPS or its TPS features as if it was an MMO effectively proving the reviewer to be a total ******.
That said the game legitimately needs an improved tutorial to clear up the first half of the above issues.
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The game has an amazing in-game wiki style thing. It's under Intel.
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