Ya know, Angry Joe did bring up one very valid point. Dev comment requested.

[tangotown]

All we can hope is tiron watch these reviews and read what we post, if u havent got customers the product will fail. Im enjoying the game regardless of the bugs. But alot still needs to be done for this game to shine.

[Ikagawa]

All we can hope is tiron watch these reviews and read what we post, if u havent got customers the product will fail. Im enjoying the game regardless of the bugs. But alot still needs to be done for this game to shine.

Everyone that bought the game is already a customer. Their product is a success.

[Dixa]

+five flameshield because I completely disagree with his review except for this one thing. Defiance is amazing.

At one point in AJ's (Stupid IMO) review, there was a small clip of rain, Where ARE the weather effects? I'd like to see the rain and storms in the game. I mean, I see a lot more (/less at night) now that I turned down the gamma, but still. Will they be added with a later patch?

my guess was that it was scrapped to make the game accessible

look at the pc sub forum. you'll find people who spent money upgrading their gpu and ram but are still using cpu's from 2005. weather effects and the like are cpu-heavy processes.

many mmo's dont give you weather nowadays, and those that do tend to scrimp on graphics in some other way in order to give you weather or give you heavy instancing. gone are the days of daoc downpours blinding you, so loud with thunder as to really immerse you in the game world. yes, this is a sad thing, but cpu/gpu requirements for games in 2001 were NOTHING like they are now.

[Shada Mori]

Fog happens sometimes too depending on where you are.

[Schwa]

Everyone that bought the game is already a customer. Their product is a success.

That really, really didn't work for Final Fantasy XIV.

[divot2001]

It rained all the time in Red Dead Redemption and I used to play that game until my eyes bled. Consoles can handle weather effects just fine.

[NeoDraven]

That really, really didn't work for Final Fantasy XIV.

And yet it is still a big success after 1.06 patch, thank god they 360/Microsoft to go shove it where the sun doesn't shine silly you gotta pay a sub to get access that you're paying a sub for, that's why PSU died on the 360.

[Scyris]

A 6 year old PC is better than an XBOX or a PS3.

Defiance is built for the lowest common demoninator system power wise, which of pc, x360 and ps3, is the x360, its why the textures on the pc version looks so bad, because its textures made for a 10+ year old hardware.

[Schwa]

And yet it is still a big success after 1.06 patch, thank god they 360/Microsoft to go shove it where the sun doesn't shine silly you gotta pay a sub to get access that you're paying a sub for, that's why PSU died on the 360.

I'm sorry, but Final Fantasy XIV is a success by no definition other than initial sales. The developer themselves have come out and said it was a failure-- that's why the subscription fee was waived for a year.

And why they're redoing the game.

That aside, FFXIV was in even worse condition than Defiance. I'm more concerned for Trion itself-- after Defiance, it can no longer be trusted to launch its games polished and complete.

[Reciprocity316]

I'm sorry, but Final Fantasy XIV is a success by no definition other than initial sales. The developer themselves have come out and said it was a failure-- that's why the subscription fee was waived for a year.

And why they're redoing the game.

That aside, FFXIV was in even worse condition than Defiance. I'm more concerned for Trion itself-- after Defiance, it can no longer be trusted to launch its games polished and complete.

I take it that you never played Rift. It was one of the most polished games upon release that I've ever seen. Even if Defiance's launch isn't great, that doesn't destroy my faith in Trion.