MMO? I don't think so...

[Seablade30]

not all mmo's need crafting to to be considered a mmo.take a look at Planetside 2.this is more of a TPS in mmo form.would i like crafting? sure but it's not really needed.now if they did crafting like Dead Space 3 that would be amazing

[GoldenTouchDown]

The arkfalls alone make this game more of an MMO than most of the other big names

[Omnifarious Xji]

Raikon, your "attempt" and I do men attempt to come across as condescending and intellectual failed terribly after spelling "bear" rather than "bare" and finishing with " me thinks" as opposed to "I think".

I've played all paid mmos since I started EQ in 1998 all up around 15 years total and I do mean I've played all the mmos that are actually worth playing. Is this an mmo ATM?? It sure isn't by a long shot, is it a great fps? Sure is. So before you try to exert your expertise in the mmo genre I suggest that you actually get some experience behind you first because it is clear to me you have none what so ever.

Think about that before posting again and embarrassing yourself further.

That right there.... WHY, in the holiest of all Hells, do people still put the ending punctuations on the outside of the quote?! I have NEVER seen a single person do that correctly... Ever... Did no one attend 5th grade English class? "It goes inside of the quote." "Not outside of it".

[Ikagawa]

That right there.... WHY, in the holiest of all Hells, do people still put the ending punctuations on the outside of the quote?! I have NEVER seen a single person do that correctly... Ever... Did no one attend 5th grade English class? "It goes inside of the quote." "Not outside of it".

I just noticed this, but he also said "men" instead of "mean" in the first sentence.

[Creepshow]

They said this was a shooter first and an MMO second.
Well, we got the shooter, can we have the MMO now?

Crafting (There is none what-so-ever and believe it or not, crafting is big on bringing together a community)
AH system (Above statement. These were not just things thrown into an MMO because people wanted to trade.)
Chat (If this is missing, gg.)
Party functions (Group waypoints, marking...)
Holy Trinity (Not saying I want it here, but it forced people to work together. There was no means of compensating for the lack of it.)
Lack of Death Penalty (Incentive to revive allies drops to 0 knowing they will just revive a few feet away with a very small poke at their scrip count.)

There are many more reasons as to why there is a lack of MMO in this game, why everyone seems to want to ignore everyone else..

I mean just look at instancing! Half the time 1 or 2 are rushing the thing while another might be hunting the recorders and that last person is trying to actually enjoy the place!

Honestly the one thing I kept thinking when I read this.... Did you learn about Defiance the day you bought it? Judging by your join date or post count, I doubt it. You've participated in one of the beta tests right? A stress test or two maybe? Possibly not, but you've at least watched some gameplay footage or trailers.

Crafting, auction house, having to queue for a specific role for group instances..... traditional, and great elements for an MMORPG. Adding those elements was never intended, or advertised, and would make this a completely different game.

[Aimeri]

That right there.... WHY, in the holiest of all Hells, do people still put the ending punctuations on the outside of the quote?! I have NEVER seen a single person do that correctly... Ever... Did no one attend 5th grade English class? "It goes inside of the quote." "Not outside of it".

Does it bother you as much as when people use "...." instead of a simple period?

[Creepshow]

Does it bother you as much as when people use "...." instead of a simple period?

It bothers me....

[Omnifarious Xji]

Does it bother you as much as when people use "...." instead of a simple period?

Not at all, as they're letting you know there's a giant pause at the end of their statement. Also, it can be used to be a smart ***. "It goes on top...."