Is there a scope mod for smgs that doesn't actually add a scope?

[Shiny Pidgey]

Why would you put a scope on a shotgun, one that isn't the hip spread one. Even with the slug rounds, that doesn't justify an actual scope. What the hell man.

I wouldn't, is the answer to this. At least not with most shotguns. Arguments could be made for scopes on the grenade-launching variety (which is also my favorite). However, it's worth trying stuff out to see what feels right and what doesn't, so I've done it. And it doesn't feel right, so I probably won't in the future, but a scoped shotgun isn't a worthless pile of garbage, either. Notably, that doesn't mean I think shotguns are worthless because they "miss out" on a synergy slot.

[Shiny Pidgey]

Hence why I asked the question in the original post to begin with, as Woolyspud stated everything seems to be a sniper scope that i've found and they all have that tunnel vision that i've seen. And others stated here that there seems to be no options other than full on scope. And yeah, if you want to be close enough to not have fallout damage, then those scopes do gimp your sight, plus the close the fov the way more you have to compensate for bloom and you make it worse with those scopes.

I think there's a thread floating around with images of the various scope types, though last I saw it only had the level-one varieties. One in particular for SMGs is a very large circle with little blackspace around it that would probably be a good option. Also, you shouldn't be scoped in while target-finding anyhow, unless you're sniping. As much as I hate the term, you're better off "quickscoping" in most scenarios. Aim at the guy, zoom in, shoot until dead, unzoom.

I'm not going to keep arguing in this thread, as it's obvious neither of us is going to budge on our points, but if you haven't already, I'd suggest you go try out a variety of scopes and tactics and see if there's one you do end up liking. You never know.

[Blackwolfe]

I only added a scope to an AR to get the pursuit for fully modding an AR :P Then I removed all mods and just put in everything (proper mods not just whites) except scope :P I hate scopes on everything except sniper rifles. Wish there were more non-scope mods for the scope slot..

[Speedstersonic]

I wouldn't, is the answer to this. At least not with most shotguns. Arguments could be made for scopes on the grenade-launching variety (which is also my favorite). However, it's worth trying stuff out to see what feels right and what doesn't, so I've done it. And it doesn't feel right, so I probably won't in the future, but a scoped shotgun isn't a worthless pile of garbage, either. Notably, that doesn't mean I think shotguns are worthless because they "miss out" on a synergy slot.

I'm not saying worthless cause of one synergy slot, but we would be gimped either by not adding a scope or adding one and losing the synergy, or by reducing the quality of aim mode for us, but snipers would get all bonuses. Not saying useless, just saying we're getting the short end of a stick and it's kind of unfair.

[Speedstersonic]

I think there's a thread floating around with images of the various scope types, though last I saw it only had the level-one varieties. One in particular for SMGs is a very large circle with little blackspace around it that would probably be a good option. Also, you shouldn't be scoped in while target-finding anyhow, unless you're sniping. As much as I hate the term, you're better off "quickscoping" in most scenarios. Aim at the guy, zoom in, shoot until dead, unzoom.

I'm not going to keep arguing in this thread, as it's obvious neither of us is going to budge on our points, but if you haven't already, I'd suggest you go try out a variety of scopes and tactics and see if there's one you do end up liking. You never know.

Well just to add, I stated earlier, all the scopes add closer fov than no scope aiming, and the closer the fov, the more you have to compensate for bloom, which is heavy on most smgs. So adding ANY scope hurts a lot, and aiming for crit points even up close is useful so aim mode up close does have uses, but yeah tunnel vision hurts and the extra compensation adding for bloom hurts too.

[Evilution]

I really don't like the scopes in this game except for the snipers, hope they add a different choice for a mod.

[Yuki_k]

I dont want to read all the posts, so I just post my experience. There are mods for the 4th slot actually, that does not add a sight. I have a sight mod attached to my shotgun, that increases the accuracy, but does not add a sight to the weapon.

[Speedstersonic]

I dont want to read all the posts, so I just post my experience. There are mods for the 4th slot actually, that does not add a sight. I have a sight mod attached to my shotgun, that increases the accuracy, but does not add a sight to the weapon.

Yeah, apparently this is only available for shotguns atm.

[Aternak]

I dont want to read all the posts, so I just post my experience. There are mods for the 4th slot actually, that does not add a sight. I have a sight mod attached to my shotgun, that increases the accuracy, but does not add a sight to the weapon.

It might increase its Accuracy (stat), but you'll get a surprise if you get an identical but unmodded weapon and compare the size of their crosshair graphics. Try it out if you dare. (The one you modded will actually have a larger crosshair, i.e. increased spread).

[CrimsonTear]

Its calleda red dot. is itrediculous to ask for that. or holographic. no tunnel vision. more accurate close range sights. even some mid range weapons need this. i desperately want one for my legendary LMG. scoping is ******ed on an lmg. i have a high ase damage so i justtapthe trigger and use it as an extremelyhigh mag mid damage sniper that shoots as fast as i want and i can cope. Butthen ill et into n arkfall and its no usable in that instance. some nstances you could suffer a scope on an SMG burltif your usedto being able to scopein. its horriblein closeencounters. then you have to pull upyour menu and switch classes. i simply wish each weapon classcouldcarry three weapons.