Defiance: Advanced Mission Beta 3 Details

[DocRogers]

Betas may be demos to some, but not to the developers. They are made solely to find bugs and glitches so that the final product won't have it.

Breaking news to you now buddy, Defiance has already gone gold. The game has been certified because it takes anywhere from 4-6 weeks to go through that process. If you fail cert, you will miss your launch date. So I promise you all this game is already gold! This is a weak attempt at stress testing their servers and finding any bugs that will pop up when population numbers grow to be hammered out in a day 1 patch. So yes, this is basically a demo at this point. It's a beta, but it's a demo too.

[Retsopmi]

Sure shows that you're a pretty cool guy attacking me instead of the message I'm trying to present. Heh youre funny.

I killed your message first. Or did you not read the part about you not having a clue that almost ALL MMOs offer beta access with preorder.

Also if you think this "beta" is anything more then a PR weekend you are naive. Pro tip. This game has had an Alpha for a very long time. These "beta" weekends are nothing more then ploys to get people to pre order the game. Hence why they are limiting the content people have access to.

Anyone remember Age of Conan? That game had a nice PR weekend before launch as well. Let everyone play up until level 20. The game ran smooth was polished. They got a lot of people to pre order the game. Then what happened? People got past level 20 and realized the game feel apart fast and that is why they only showed people the first part. It's business. It's all smoke and mirrors. In the words of the Wizard of Oz, ignore the man behind the curtain.

[rathb18]

Code 117 already said it best on more than one of his posts...and I thank him for actually being a productive PC tester and telling us what most of us (at least I know I am) are thinking already. This game is huge and 48hrs is NOT enough time ,as I stated before, to get a firm grasp on whether you truly enjoy it. He also made a valid point, that was made earlier as well, that BETAs are also demos for some and good god he is so right, Aliens was atrocious to the point that it wasn't worth the redbox fees. People work, go to school, etc. add in sleeping, eating, social interaction and you're looking at more like 7-10hrs at most. This is an MMOPRG people...7-10hrs isn't anything at all when it comes to testing, playing, exploring, etc.

I can NOT wrap my head around the fact that videos are enough to get you to buy something (remember, I have NOT played the BETA......and you're telling me videos should be enough?). Homefront.......another BRINK if you will, no video could tell me that their server system was going to f-ed six ways to Sunday for over 3 months. No video could show me that I wasn't going to EVER get my pre-order items no matter what troubleshooting I did...etc. If there was a BETA for that game...we all would've known their servers were **** and not paid $64.19

48 hours is plenty of time. And server issues with homefront or brink would be Sony or Microsoft's fault not the game dev's fault so blame them. And there's more to game's then stupid PVP. And if you really that annoyed because of server errors than why are you even bothering to get this game? You do realize almost every MMO's launch has server errors and crashes for the first week or so regardless to how much beta testing there is.

[cab0218]

I guess nobody really knows why it is so short. On the stream Sledge said he does not know.

[Jamesdanex]

Wow, way to throw your Xbox fans under the bus. Extremely disappointed.

[DocRogers]

48 hours is plenty of time.

No it is shy of 48 hours. 48 hours takes up 3 whole dates, 25, 26, 27. Stop defending this type of campaign. There is no reason that all 3 platforms don't have the same dates to be tested. No reason at all.

[Paladin]

I killed your message first. Or did you not read the part about you not having a clue that almost ALL MMOs offer beta access with preorder.

Also if you think this "beta" is anything more then a PR weekend you are naive. Pro tip. This game has had an Alpha for a very long time. These "beta" weekends are nothing more then ploys to get people to pre order the game. Hence why they are limiting the content people have access to.

So far my interpretation has been that Trions focus for debugging is only on the Alpha while the Beta is just there to pack up the servers with people, all the betas are 1-3 days never enough for the player to get something out of it only the developer. But I don't care, the final product is the only thing that interest me. This flaming over 2 days is only happening because ps3 got more.

[ranger2410]

Sure shows that you're a pretty cool guy attacking me instead of the message I'm trying to present. Heh youre funny.

But the point you keep trying to represent is wrong... i mean heck, you already said we werent entitled to beta access. You know what happens when a company advertises something, people spend money for that reason, and then the company doesn't deliver? They get sued for fraud, and they lose. Then you seem to think people are only mad because it's a shorter test, which is only a small portion of the vocal argument so far. The issue is even more so timing. No one ever releases a beta only on a mondyay and tuesday, it's completely moronic, even for THEIR reasons.

You say it's all about finding bugs, and testing the servers for trion, and has NOTHING to do with the players who were promised access if they spent money. Whatever, i'll work with that. So, why did trion pick the worse possible time ever to stress test it? Test during the weekend would have produced tens of thousands of increased man hours. That's tens of thousands of extra hours looking for bugs, and having a population online that is actually capable of putting stress on the servers. Guess what, that isn't gonna happen on a monday or tuesday.

And for the record, it is MUCH less of a stress test and testing beta than a demo. If it was a stress test to test servers and "find bugs" it's still pretty pathetic. An ever expanding MMO, but hey we can tell them about the bugs that happen in about 3 hours worth of a thousands of hours game! And that's not even based on time, that's based on the fact that almost all of the game is closed off.

[Tat2uze]

Betas may be demos to some, but not to the developers. They are made solely to find bugs and glitches so that the final product won't have it.

I don't care if you call it a beta, demo, the easter bunny or what have you. 7 practical hours to find bugs and glitches is just a waste of time. Sure the tutorial might be polished but what about 12 or 16 hours into the game.

[rathb18]

No it is shy of 48 hours. 48 hours takes up 3 whole dates, 25, 26, 27. Stop defending this type of campaign. There is no reason that all 3 platforms don't have the same dates to be tested. No reason at all.

Regardless it's still plenty of time considering the game comes out a week after beta end's.