Defiance: Advanced Mission Beta 3 Details

[SparklingNugs]

Allow me to break through the walls of 360 v/s PC and say i understand and you make some very good points.The 360 crew just see that there have been many options for the PC guys/gals to get in on the action already.However,its not your fault you missed or was not picked for those so to me that validates your point.It is the fact that this is the first possible chance at anything for the xbox that makes them feel like they have more right to shout (could be wrong though).

It's also the utterances of 'soon' for nearly three months.

[Ctrain]

me telling you how much of a childish, entitled, presumtuous *** you are.

Um yeah this is a flame. Sure you dressed it up with a bunch of extraneous text but its clearly an effort to say this without actually saying it. Only you did say it and I doubt most will buy the contrived effort to imply you didn't mean exactly this. You allready got called out by somebody other then me for bashing a guy who AGREES WITH YOU that xbox got shafted just because he happens to be a pc gamer. Drop the console vs. pc nonsense it helps nobody least of all 360 users.

[DocRogers]

This is NOT an "open" beta... last I knew, it's not open to "everybody". There are those that do NOT pre-order that can still be selected for a random beta code... not to mention everything is being WIPED after, which makes it a CLOSED beta.

A closed beta doesn't necessarily mean a player's save files will get wiped. Although it's normally the case. Some people want to call the early access of Epic's OverRun a beta, but really it's early access and all of your stats carry over.

The difference between a closed and open beta/ or alpha is this:
A closed Alpha or Beta means you must be invited by the developers or friend of the developers. (YOU MUST BE INVITED)
An open Alpha or Beta is when anyone can get a code, register, and play the beta event. All of the mission betas were open betas.
There was a "closed beta" test for those Trion invited to be a part of that much longer test of the game. Although still on going, the game is now gold and no longer in beta, the only thing "beta" about this Mission Beta 3 event is the fact that the servers need to be tested with a larger population to prevent an Error 37 event.

This is no longer a beta!

I know all of this because I am a developer.
I know how the alpha, beta, gold cycle works.

[DJTrig]

It's also the utterances of 'soon' for nearly three months.

Sorry,didn't want to mention the S word for fear of pouring fuel on the fire.

[iiReLaX o]

touch on a few points raised.

1) this is an OPEN beta. Anyone can join and therefore it is OPEN to the public. Do not think Trion worlds can redefine reality and the whole English language because they call an open beta a closed one.

2)Alot of players PAID FOR this beta. They do infact owe them something. They choose to sell there game in part with promises of beta access and now they are beeing called to account for unsatisfactory efforts to deliver.

3)There is and will be only 1 pc open beta same as the consoles. Bringing up closed betas that very few had access to argue a pc player has less right to complain is not only wrong but counter productive to your own complaints.

1. No it is not open. I can't just pick up my controller, go to the Xbox Marketplace and download the game. Therefore it is closed.

2. I mean, we are getting a beta. It's not like they have to make it 2 weeks long. It's whatever they are allowed to do or even what is necessary to test certain aspects of the game.

[SparklingNugs]

Sorry,didn't want to mention the S word for fear of pouring fuel on the fire.

No, please do. We need a bigger fire.

Maybe Trion will do more than tell us 360 players can get a code for the PC beta.

[Ctrain]

Allow me to break through the walls of 360 v/s PC and say i understand and you make some very good points.The 360 crew just see that there have been many options for the PC guys/gals to get in on the action already.However,its not your fault you missed or was not picked for those so to me that validates your point.It is the fact that this is the first possible chance at anything for the xbox that makes them feel like they have more right to shout (could be wrong though).

You may have it right but some ppl bashing the pc guys over some mythical beta that alot of us late joiners never even knew about is hardly fair or productive. Not to mention thoose betas were not pre order incentives anyway. my point is that ALL the betas are to short and we ALL need at least a week.

[nitroz76]

Judging by the fact that you just joined recently. I am assuming you really didn't care to play the beta regardless?

I've been waiting for over a month to hear something in an effort to maybe play the game for at least a week or two well before the game came out. Not work week prior to release. So good for you waving your flag around. No one really cares some people actually want to beta test for the consoles.

Nah, he's been watching it like a hawk.

You'll see a bunch of MAGgots here as time comes closer.

[DocRogers]

No, I'd say you missed your own point. You said there were no alpha testers, and even here you say, "They are also not alpha testers. They are beta testers." -- This game has had BOTH alpha AND beta testers... the alpha testers were hand-picked, and held strict to the NDA... heck, there's still stickies about the Alpha testers... so wtf.

Dude, you're missing it again.

There were closed alpha testers, or in other words, just flat out alpha testers. Those people are invited because they are special in some way, or they are friends of the developers. (There can be open alpha events too, I point to Hawken.)

Trion's Alpha cycle most likely ended in December/January, and moved on into Beta by late January. There were still "alpha testers" but they are now called beta testers. But really the name doesn't matter because bottom line they are testers. They were a part of the closed test that was on going outside of the mission betas. The mission betas were open events to anyone! Do you understand now? Should I type it out

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[nitroz76]

Could someone post a link to some specs for the PC?

I don't want max settings I need the looooooooooooooow settings.

Minimum as stated on steam

Minimum:
OS: Windows XP SP2
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo 2.0 GHz CPU or better
Memory: 2 GB System RAM
Graphics: 512MB video card (NVIDIA GeForce 8600, ATI Radeon HD 2900, or Intel HD 4000 integrated graphics or better)
DirectX®: 9.0c
Hard Drive: 15 GB free hard drive space
Sound: DirectX 8.1 compatible sound card
Internet: Broadband internet connection



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Recommended:
OS: Windows 7
Processor: Intel Core i5 2.4 GHz CPU or better
Memory: 4 GB System RAM
Graphics: 1024MB video card (NVIDIA GeForce GTS 250 or ATI Radeon HD 4750 or better)
DirectX®: 9.0c
Hard Drive: 15 GB free hard drive space
Sound: DirectX 8.1 compatible sound card
Internet: Broadband internet connection