Defiance: Advanced Mission Beta 3 Details

[davidfsu2009]

I mean, we are getting a beta. It's not like they have to make it 2 weeks long. It's whatever they are allowed to do or even what is necessary to test certain aspects of the game.

yeah that over half the people aint going to be able to play because of the time of the week they scheudle it hell why even offer a beta to xbox lord knows sales r going to down from here on out good marketing stratedy to bring a mmo to xbox

[ZombieTech]

A closed beta doesn't necessarily mean a player's save files will get wiped. Although it's normally the case. Some people want to call the early access of Epic's OverRun a beta, but really it's early access and all of your stats carry over.

The difference between a closed and open beta/ or alpha is this:
A closed Alpha or Beta means you must be invited by the developers or friend of the developers. (YOU MUST BE INVITED)
An open Alpha or Beta is when anyone can get a code, register, and play the beta event. All of the mission betas were open betas.
There was a "closed beta" test for those Trion invited to be a part of that much longer test of the game. Although still on going, the game is now gold and no longer in beta, the only thing "beta" about this Mission Beta 3 event is the fact that the servers need to be tested with a larger population to prevent an Error 37 event.

This is no longer a beta!

I know all of this because I am a developer.
I know how the alpha, beta, gold cycle works.

OMG, this is STILL A CLOSED BETA... it's STILL BY *INVITE ONLY*... last I saw, PRE ORDER says on it "guaranteed beta INVITE"... INVITE... see the word... INVITE. Wow, I love how people selectively block things out. *facepalm*

Btw, you're also BSing when you say "All of the mission betas were open betas." -- they were again by invite only and closed, and if they were "OPEN" there wouldn't be need for the NDA. *shakes head*

[Ctrain]

Dude, you're missing it again.

There were closed alpha testers, or in other words, just flat out alpha testers. Those people are invited because they are special in some way, or they are friends of the developers. (There can be open alpha events too, I point to Hawken.)

Trion's Alpha cycle most likely ended in December/January, and moved on into Beta by late January. There were still "alpha testers" but they are now called beta testers. But really the name doesn't matter because bottom line they are testers. They were a part of the closed test that was on going outside of the mission betas. The mission betas were open events to anyone! Do you understand now? Should I type it out

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In mother Russia games Beta test YOU!

In all seriousness I get your point. Software cannot be in alpha and beta at the same time. The "alpha" testers natural became closed beta testers when the game entered beta.

[nitroz76]

OMG, this is STILL A CLOSED BETA... it's STILL BY *INVITE ONLY*... last I saw, PRE ORDER says on it "guaranteed beta INVITE"... INVITE... see the word... INVITE. Wow, I love how people selectively block things out. *facepalm*

Guarenteed invite, but not guarenteed set amount of time.

[SparklingNugs]

Dude, you're missing it again.

There were closed alpha testers, or in other words, just flat out alpha testers. Those people are invited because they are special in some way, or they are friends of the developers. (There can be open alpha events too, I point to Hawken.)

Trion's Alpha cycle most likely ended in December/January, and moved on into Beta by late January. There were still "alpha testers" but they are now called beta testers. But really the name doesn't matter because bottom line they are testers. They were a part of the closed test that was on going outside of the mission betas. The mission betas were open events to anyone! Do you understand now? Should I type it out

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My god, I feel bad for you. You have to communicate such basic logic with people that already have their minds made up/can't comprehend basic logic.

[ZombieTech]

Dude, you're missing it again.

There were closed alpha testers, or in other words, just flat out alpha testers. Those people are invited because they are special in some way, or they are friends of the developers. (There can be open alpha events too, I point to Hawken.)

Trion's Alpha cycle most likely ended in December/January, and moved on into Beta by late January. There were still "alpha testers" but they are now called beta testers. But really the name doesn't matter because bottom line they are testers. They were a part of the closed test that was on going outside of the mission betas. The mission betas were open events to anyone! Do you understand now? Should I type it out

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[Tr3nch]

Beta is not an entitlement. You should be thankful that they even had one in the first play and that you are being let in. Beta's are not meant to be free fun time, its meant for testing. If Xbox has only one day it could be for various reasons 1) Xbox Live Servers may have already been tested and there aren't many issues, 2) Microsoft are idiots, lets face it, and yes I play Xbox over any system, still makes them idiots. They could be preventing the devs from testing longer. 3) Who cares, its out in two weeks..

[nitroz76]

In mother Russia games Beta test YOU!

In all seriousness I get your point. Software cannot be in alpha and beta at the same time. The "alpha" testers natural became closed beta testers when the game entered beta.

They said alpha is to tweak all the major things and change/test settings.

Beta is to get the story right, stress test, and as a doublecheck for bugs.

[Jamesdanex]

Yes they do, they used it as a PRE-ORDER INCENTIVE.

Aaricane, we've got to stop meeting like this, but anywho.. people really seem to be missing this point.

Of course PS3/PC players are going to defend trion on this. They got what they wanted, and weren't completely ****** over.

[Askari]

Tis the fate of all game forums. flame wars and console wars are at every turn.