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    Quote Originally Posted by Ctrain View Post
    Somehow in your mind you will try to justify how this isn't trolling. You may even really believe the part about me "flaming' everything that doesn't agree. I guess posting a counter argument is flaming in your book but calling someone childish, petty, fool, ranting, brat, idiot... is somehow not trolling. But seriously I have allowed you to derail this thing far more then is healthy for the thread. If you have an argument to make that hasn't allready been shot down then make it. Until then I've nothing more to say to you.
    You haven't posted any proper counter arguments yourself. I don't see any valid reason as to why Trion is forced to make it better, I don't see any valid argument as to why they would absolutely be capable of doing it properly.

    All I see is you shoot down people because you somehow feel 'insulted' by their posts.. If I even post seemingly a little word that might be used as an insult, you'll use it to try and evade any sense of logic. I mean seriously, how old are you?

    And no, not in my book, in real life. (directly) insulting someone isn't trolling. You have your facts crossed.. Do you know what trolling is? Trolling is what you are doing right now, Trolling is attempts at aggravating people, or fooling people in order to get a reaction out of them and push the barrel down the stairs. 'Trolls' won't say you're childish when you act like it, trolls will find a way to make your life miserable by pulling much better strings.

    Insulting is just throwing an insult their way, everyone does it. I often call my friends idiots and worst. I openly tell people who do stupid things, idiots.

    In the off chance that you're not just trying to pull my leg here. Here's a little bit of help you might like.. If you're going to be this sensitive... you should avoid forums. Its not very healthy if you feel like barking and 'ignoring' people over nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by G_A_P View Post
    I think you missed my point, what if when all of the servers are online together and due to network issues you get a problem that cascades down to each of the platform servers? Without a full network and server stress test this would not be seen until launch.

    Now I am assuming the the different platform servers are on the same network, but I have seen problems of this nature in my line of work.
    True, that could be the case. I think Trions stuff is run through a cloud service though so if that fails it's not entirely their fault really. Stress testing would probably still be benificial really when you look at it like that.

    It really should have been beta 2 was a staggered beta and 3 is simultaneous beta...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Codex View Post
    They stated on the stream that the NDA on the beta is lifted as of AMB3. However, the alpha is still under NDA.
    Ah very good. Thank you all for your help. Hope to see you in-game soon!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ctrain View Post
    Ah but your assuming an either or scenario. Why can't we have a BETA for 360 that is both longer AND not crashign every 5 seconds? I see no reason why not. And if its that unstable then just imagine live without a real beta. Either way you will have the complaints but at least after release we'd have servers that ran, hopefully.
    Having both would be awesome, but I wasn't assuming an either or scenario, I was responding directly to your scenario assessment that if the beta was longer, nobody would care if the servers went down. You might not care (neither would I), because you understand that betas aren't meant to be perfect, but to say that 'nobody would be that upset over abit of downtime' doesn't sound very realistic.

    They may not have legitimate complaints, but complain they will. Which is precisely the root of discord on this thread; those who feel their complaints are legitimate, and those who don't.

    So I thought it was funny and ironic (in a friendly manner!) that if the beta was longer and had server issues, and people started complaining about it, and you took the stance that it wasn't that big of a deal, you'd be on the receiving end of the same kinds of arguments (legitimate or not) you're making in this thread:-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radz View Post
    It really should have been beta 2 was a staggered beta and 3 is simultaneous beta...
    ^^This. I'm actually surprised to see the launch of a game a week after the only console betas have been concluded, particularly when they have not even attempted to operate all three platforms simultaneously. As noted, there is a distinct difference between a launch and a beta, but the beta should at least try to mimic the launch conditions.

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    I think its about time to close this thread.
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    No matter where you stand in this forum you will be attacked... its the PvP Forum!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daymarr View Post
    I think its about time to close this thread.
    We can't! A few hundred posts ago someone said we have to keep this going until launch! We mustn't fail whoever that happened to be!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ark Baby View Post
    We can't! A few hundred posts ago someone said we have to keep this going until launch! We mustn't fail whoever that happened to be!
    The amount of randomness in this thread is mind blowing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Desidus View Post
    No matter where you stand in this forum you will be attacked... its the PvP Forum!

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    Totally! Shadow Wars have already started and we can't even play the game yet!
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