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    Senior Member Tr3nch's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZombieTech View Post
    Wow, I didn't realize it was so serious. But in considering, there might be something here worthy of working with... maybe you should contact CNN. I'm sure Anderson Cooper could easily fit you in on his Ridicu-List.
    hahahaha now that is funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiero Glyph View Post
    You do realize that if there are any bugs found at release (and there will be), it will immediately go back to the fact that the 360's beta was only 37 hours on a Monday and Tuesday, right? Yes, the purpose of a beta is to find and fix bugs and stress test the servers. A 37 hour beta that occurs on a non-weekend will probably not accomplish these goals.

    Also, the PS3 beta is not the full game, so to a lesser degree it is a demo of sorts. Unless you mean to tell me that Trion is only beta testing a portion of their game and expects the rest to be bug-free or smooth at launch.
    Yes, I realize this, of course I do, I know what a beta is. What I'm trying to get across is that having beta access really shouldn't matter to anyone as a selling point. Most bugs will have hopefully already been found and fixed. It's my understanding that consoles aren't allowed to have patches released on the fly, and need to be tested and approved by the console manufacturer for quality control. I'm pretty sure that the 37 hour test at limited times is the best they could get from Microsoft. If I were Microsoft, I wouldn't want testing being done on live active servers during peak times. I'm betting this is only being done to fulfill the pre-order obligations.

    I really don't understand what the big deal is...you get in briefly to play the game early, but you'll be reset on day 1 anyway, and you're going to be able to play for free from now until the servers shut down.

    edit - seems like it was a correct assumption, just saw a post by sledge affirming it's not in their control. Things like this occur when you're releasing multi-platform.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ctrain View Post
    I don't claim to speak for everyone who preordered an XBOX copy but I know I speak for many.
    let them speak for themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ctrain View Post
    I can't count the number of times the "you didn't pay for the beta" argument has been shot down but I'll try yet again.

    They did in fact PAY for the beta. It was sold as part of the package. They didn't buy a game and then find out later it came with a beta key. They bought a game presumably with that knowledge which influenced the decision to preorder for many. Thats like saying you buy a pizza deal with 2 "free" topings and when you get the pizza it has no free toppings or different toppings then you ordered but its ok cause they were "free" right? It deceptive.
    You got your free toppings, you were just expecting the free toppings to come in larger quantities, nobody specified the number of pepperoni slices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironhands View Post
    You got your free toppings, you were just expecting the free toppings to come in larger quantities, nobody specified the number of pepperoni slices.
    you have a point xD

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironhands View Post
    let them speak for themselves.
    Indeed; what's even funnier is the fact they already admitted yesterday they haven't pre-ordered or paid for anything... even said they believe Defiance is going to bomb and are just staying around to laugh and gloat when it supposedly does.

    Example:

    Quote Originally Posted by Ctrain View Post
    I understand the anger here. But I do want to at least confirm what I suspect to be true that this game will bomb before I go elsewhere.
    S · I · M · I · L · A · R ------ C · R · E · A · T · U · R · E · S

    Just because you can't handle the truth... doesn't mean somebody is trolling!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ironhands View Post
    You got your free toppings, you were just expecting the free toppings to come in larger quantities, nobody specified the number of pepperoni slices.
    actually its more like they get 3 pepperoni slices and the other guy gets 12 or 15. Deferential treatment is a terrible bussiness model.

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    Like I said earlier. As soon as we see him start posting we call him out on his lies and then he disappears again.. Its like playing whack-a-mole.. Except I'm not drunk..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ctrain View Post
    actually its more like they get 3 pepperoni slices and the other guy gets 12 or 15. Deferential treatment is a terrible bussiness model.
    Your math isn't right.
    Memento Mori ;
    Remember you are mortal. -|- Remember you will die.
    Cogito Ergo Sum ;
    Je pense, donc je suis. -|- I think, therefor I am.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tr3nch View Post
    Like I said earlier. As soon as we see him start posting we call him out on his lies and then he disappears again.. Its like playing whack-a-mole.. Except I'm not drunk..
    yet.......

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