If Nim or Jackleg Joe get nerfed...

[Kurze]

This has to be some weird demented joke.

some people are really THAT BAD at games

amazing, I know, but veridic. prolly my dog is better than them at games

[Jafo]

I haven't done Nim yet, but jackleg did take me several attempts...until I read some strategies. Easy as heck after that.

[Drandorion]

Is actually what my comment referred to even tho it might have sounded like a sarcastic remark. But I was actually hinting towards what you wrote.

O.o Your wit was too good for me sir (being serious), went right over my head. Your one of the good ones, hope to see you ingame some time.

I guess the point here is that it is subjective, and if they are nerfing it because people aren't able to complete it, well, is it the people who are soloing it that find it that difficult, or groups who are actually cooperating? If they make the battles easier for those who are going it alone, then it lessens the experience and need of cooperation. If they scale it down to the point that anyone, with any build, and any weapon, by themselves can just roll around and win, what fun is there, or point, to take it on as a group?

I was under the impression that the Nim battle was only doable solo... Is it possible to bring a group into that?

[Rhorge]

I was under the impression that the Nim battle was only doable solo... Is it possible to bring a group into that?

The impression you were under was correct, solo only.

[FriendlyStranger]

If it is just solo, and they do end up making it uber easy, why have a fight at all? Games are entertaining, and should present a challenge. Easy entertainment is why they developed television, and interactive movies.

[Nidien]

some people are really THAT BAD at games

amazing, I know, but veridic. prolly my dog is better than them at games

It's crazy. I thought for certain people were trying the co-op maps solo or something..I hadn't a clue as to what people were talking about until I put 2 and 2 together and realized they were talking about the 2 bosses in the main portion of the story. Then my brain melted and shut down for a second..trying to process how exactly so many people are calling for a nerf. Just WOW.

Seriously..the guy has like 3 moves.

When he warps at you and goes up to drop the AOE roll 3 times to get enough distance and turn and fire.

When he does his charge..wait a second and dodge..once he does it the 3-4 times and stops..start unloading on him.

When he splits into the upper rafters..shoot as many as you can while standing by the ammo refill to avoid the ones above you and when the knives come..just...dodge again.

When he warps into the glass cylinder run to the ammo refill..wait until the walls pop up and blast as many as you can. Again..when he warps to you..roll 3 times..turn and fire.

I stayed on the side with the ammo refill with the two pillars the entire time. When he splits and you have 3-4 decoys running at you just spray and pray..they take like 4 shots to get to disappear and then eventually you'll find the correct one.

Fire balls..just use a pillar and dodge..you may get hit but you have the shield they should be a non-issue even though I noticed some went around the pillars.

People screaming they need legendary gear and or filled with purps and still can't do it..I've yet to even see a legendary let alone loot one..and I have 2 purple guns both from mission rewards..this is insanity...and Jackleg...not even getting into that one..other than..have the little clowns run at you..wait a second then dodge..turn and put 3 rounds into their back..simple and simple gets. I think people really need to stop relying on shotguns so damn much which seems to be a large common denominator here and/or..just play the game and learn..only way you are going to get better. Nerfing something doesn't make you better..because then the same people will call for nerfs the entire time they play this game...get a weapon and give yourself some space. Come on people..it's not hard AT ALL. I just can't process how this is such a wide spread problem.

[MirrorStream]

So WTF is exactly the problem? I don't get it..and probably never will. The hardest boss people have EVER fought? What seems to be the problem? People can't move? They can't figure out how to hit alt and dodge? What am I missing?

The problem is some "gamers" can't find x button which they could hit to win in this game.

[Greycut]

Jackleg was just tedious. Made worse because my AI partner never stopped shouting at me through the entire thing. I hope any new boss fights the game has coming show a little more imagination, especially when it comes to co-op.

[ndamm]

... is there going to be special rewards for those players who have defeated these bosses before they were put into wuss mode?

Serious question.

I think it's kinda unfair to let players who managed to pull off the seemingly impossible go without tokens of appreciation for their accomplishments. They did after all put more effort into it.

I would rather play him on hardmode than easymode. So im just happy that i had the opportunity if they decide to nerf them. No need to be rewarded for having a bit of difficulty in a relatively easy game.

[Roflmaowtf]

None of the bosses are hard, if people seriously need a nerf in order to beat them then they must be really terrible at games.