Removing Episode Missions to Coincide With Show Will Kill This Game

[Napalm Sunrise]

The only reason those missions were worth keeping around were for the Purple AR with all the mod slots already available. Seriously. THE ONLY reason worth playing those missions. That gun is beast.

[M00N]

As for the "it doesn't affect you" argument: that is irrelevant. I am not supporting the removal of the missions for my own benefit, but rather for the benefit of those who are joining in. I feel that compromising the timeline (or rather, if episode missions were to be treated as a separate chain of missions performed as the show advances) does a disservice to the player. What if during episode 6, some big twist occurs. It may be (if we kept the missions) that the player would have to play through the previous episode missions to even see how the twist affects their world.

I feel that maintaining the artistic integrity of the game is meaningful. That even trying to maintain the timeline is useful, and in a sense, a form of content. People mention the tutorial mission as an example. I will grant that can get kind of messy. That seems to be there to key to the fact that in the timeline, the VBI expedition in the Bay Area started on April 2nd 2047. That cutscene clearly occurs at that point in time. By April 15th though, Nolan and Irrisa have arrived/are arriving shortly, at Defiance.

Well said mate, agree on it all!

[Aimeri]

I really don't need you lecturing me on what real life is and how it can affect things. Please don't talk down to me like I don't realize that.

The point I'm trying to make is that there is no reason for this conflict other than that some people want to feel special that they got to do content that some won't be able to. That's great for them, but I'm more than willing to speak out against it. There is no continuity or immersion related reason for why the missions couldn't be left in.

Please, pardon me for being passionate about wanting to see a game I love make what I think are smart decisions for its playerbase. I realize we're on opposite sides, but that's all I'm doing here.

Man, you are being ridiculously hostile for no reason. I wasn't talking down to you. I was just saying, that's life and it sucks. How on earth was I lecturing you?

The fact of the matter is, they made the choice. Time to get over it and move on. Do you really think *****ing on these forums is going to change anything? Really?

We're not on opposite sides. I would prefer they keep them in the game as well. They didn't though. It's just a game and I'm sure we'll live.

[RABIDBITE]

it need a patch big time but most game do

[MacDeath]

This, I do actually sympathize with. Actually, I'm kinda surprised they're running the North America servers and EU servers, etc on the same schedule. I would think, since the show isn't available until later in other countries, then the servers for those countries would work with that timeline.

So yeah, that sucks for you. Hopefully Trion will try to help you guys out in that regard.

Trion has TWO server sites, one in Dallas, TX for North America and one in Amsterdam for the EU. SyFy showed the first episode in the US on April 15 and SyFy.co.uk shows it in at least ONE EU contry on 16 April. How would they gate the content to each individual country in the world? Answer, they don't.

[Siygess]

if everyone could get it its basicly to say "i was there i did this" just like with some things they added into WoW like the opening on AQ and such its to have that unique feeling.

I think this is probably what bothers me most about about the counter arguments (eh, it's internet. I can't say I expected any different). I have seen some good and well reasoned arguments for why things should be the way they are and I respect that. But for every cry of "entitled!" there is a person countering the OP in a way that makes them come across as an elitist who wants to ensure other people don't join their "I was there at the beginning" club.

No offence to you, Jackaleffect, and I'm sure you have a perfectly legitimate reason for not agreeing with the OP. The quoted line above simply serves to highlight a trend I've noticed in this thread.

[EonEire]

Just throwing this out there as part of this whole discussion, there are people who don't watch TV, I am one of them. When the box set of season one comes out I will buy that and will watch them as to not have any adverts, as I hate adverts with a firey burning passion of fire. I dont see why they need to be be removed for people who don't schedule enough time to coincide with a TV show game crossover. This is a fragile concept that, in all honesty, needs a bit of wiggle room to test properly before you start cutting off content for people, its new and its exciting but its not beyond improvement. This isn't as simple or clean cut as "seasonl events in other games" its FAR beyond that. Its a mass-marketing dual set up that needs to be encouraged not bits chopped off.

The consumption of the games content and the show are at different rates for different audiences, if you take on a project like Trion have, you are now in a massive juggling act of pacing the game for different audiences and pacing the show for different audiences (ie. boxsetters and people who watch every week). This is simply too experimental to be making a clear cut content removal call.

Removing them will annoy people who have not had the chance to do them yet, keeping them annoys nobody. Who really cares when you interact with a medium on your own terms. Other people doing these at their own pace effects you in no way. And yes I have the first set of the Episode quests done.

[Radz]

I feel that maintaining the artistic integrity of the game is meaningful. That even trying to maintain the timeline is useful, and in a sense, a form of content. People mention the tutorial mission as an example. I will grant that can get kind of messy. That seems to be there to key to the fact that in the timeline, the VBI expedition in the Bay Area started on April 2nd 2047. That cutscene clearly occurs at that point in time. By April 15th though, Nolan and Irrisa have arrived/are arriving shortly, at Defiance.

And that actually can still be somewhat maintained since you do not see Nolan or Irisa again unless you play the episode missions. They are escape pods, so presumably you could survive some time in there and would have therefore arrived with them, but they get out and leave before you wake up or Cass opens your pod.

[Thee Apothecary]

im sure to balance the issue just bring them all out after the first season......

[BattleTorn]

You want them to keep heading east for months? Like a Defiance Groundhog day style thing? or may its just dynamic and cool.

Tough ,missions are gone get over it.

Saying "get over it" is such a coward argument seeing as you have played the missions and take them for granted.

How does ME playing missions you've already played affect you? Does it ruin YOUR game?

Active players already played them.. Great! How does leaving those missions active for those who aren't as active affect those who are? Seriously, that is the ultimate question!!

Why does leaving the episode missions for those you haven't completed them yet affect any other players?

To say we're just crying is so cowardly cause you over get to take for granted that you already played them.

If I want to play those missions late, how does it affect YOU!?

Cause, as it stands, the way it is, it is greatly affecting the late-players - as we don't get to play them at all!!!

So, as it stands, a minority get left out completely -- as compared to, what? We play them behind you, and you all are unaffected.

Why is excluding people the better option? If you want to be "completely immersed" with all the character in one place, at a time, you would still be completely free to do so.

Why do active players get to affect the late-players? when the reverse wouldn't affect anyone!!