Who's to blame: SyFy or Trion?

**Deioth** · 04-15-2013 08:52 PM

I'll premise this with the fact I more or less impulse bought this cuz I had some Steam wallet cash from a birthday, so I'd have known differently had I researched or been able to participate in the beta. That said, seriously, this game is so damn consolized. There's no community to this game. It's just something you play that has other players. It's the most Single-Player Online Coop I've ever touched since Aion or Tera or WoW and those are as Single-Player Online Coop as it gets. Considering the fact we've got a friggen TV show that the game is supposed to be tied into, I'm simply shocked that this game was ultimately designed the way it is.

This game had the hugest potential for real roleplay and community and player impact on the game (and TV show) world since anything else that has been released in any length of memory (excluding Nexus and I'll be shtako-faced if anyone knows what that is). It has a damn TV show (or is it the TV show that has a game...?) yet all the game is is ultimately just stuff to shoot. They even say they want to have players mentioned on the show, but how the hell do they intend to do that kind of thing when the game has nothing for a player to do that would make them the least bit notable? Unless they plan to mention the no-job-no-life players who will be 9999 ego by the end of May, but I don't think they want XxSSGokuxX or BurgerKing or v4g1n4 or similarly dumb and adolescent names to be their name drops in the show.

So, who's to blame for the decision to make the game essentially a midget version of Skyrim with guns and only guns and then more guns (and LOTS of detonators in your lock boxes) with little resemblance to an MMO but call it an MMO? Was it SyFy or Trion who thought Defiance the game wasn't even worth the bare arsed minimum of a central hub or any other not just standards but expectancies for the genre it claims to be?

it's not like I won't play it, it's fun enough in moderate doses and the show was surprisingly entertaining. I'm just a bit surprised and honestly a bit miffed that such an opportunity for something far above and beyond anything ever done before basically turned out to be as much a tie-in as any other media with a game based off of it has turned out to be only with "MMO" slapped on to the descriptor. It's as much a tie in to the show as Arkham Asylum was for the Batman universe. It's just sharing the IP.

**Buruko** · 04-15-2013 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by Deioth

I'll premise this with the fact I more or less impulse bought this cuz I had some Steam wallet cash from a birthday, so I'd have known differently had I researched or been able to participate in the beta. That said, seriously, this game is so damn consolized. There's no community to this game. It's just something you play that has other players. It's the most Single-Player Online Coop I've ever touched since Aion or Tera or WoW and those are as Single-Player Online Coop as it gets. Considering the fact we've got a friggen TV show that the game is supposed to be tied into, I'm simply shocked that this game was ultimately designed the way it is.

This game had the hugest potential for real roleplay and community and player impact on the game (and TV show) world since anything else that has been released in any length of memory (excluding Nexus and I'll be shtako-faced if anyone knows what that is). It has a damn TV show (or is it the TV show that has a game...?) yet all the game is is ultimately just stuff to shoot. They even say they want to have players mentioned on the show, but how the hell do they intend to do that kind of thing when the game has nothing for a player to do that would make them the least bit notable? Unless they plan to mention the no-job-no-life players who will be 9999 ego by the end of May, but I don't think they want XxSSGokuxX or BurgerKing or v4g1n4 or similarly dumb and adolescent names to be their name drops in the show.

So, who's to blame for the decision to make the game essentially a midget version of Skyrim with guns and only guns and then more guns (and LOTS of detonators in your lock boxes) with little resemblance to an MMO but call it an MMO? Was it SyFy or Trion who thought Defiance the game wasn't even worth the bare arsed minimum of a central hub or any other not just standards but expectancies for the genre it claims to be?

it's not like I won't play it, it's fun enough in moderate doses and the show was surprisingly entertaining. I'm just a bit surprised and honestly a bit miffed that such an opportunity for something far above and beyond anything ever done before basically turned out to be as much a tie-in as any other media with a game based off of it has turned out to be only with "MMO" slapped on to the descriptor. It's as much a tie in to the show as Arkham Asylum was for the Batman universe. It's just sharing the IP.

As a PC gamer I don't know why you cannot find community, however I believe players of Aion and WoW would be able to tell you quite different stories to their social community. A social community is what you put into it, not what it brings to you. You have to socialize to build anything otherwise everyone darts too and fro without an idea that 9 people might be on the same Story phase or side mission.

Now I'm on Xbox and I stood in Mt. Tam and had a great text based round table chat with about 8 players about our experiences so far, gun play, tactics, issues we've found and some of the work a rounds we came across for them. It was about a 20 minute conversation, in the end a few went off as they were still in the Mt Tam area and some went back to Iron Demon Range to check on mods. There are sites, forums, clans galore so far as I've seen.

Take a moment and go get social I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.

As for missed opportunity? If you haven't see the new content publish on the new Episode day as far as titles and rewards well... you've missed the boat completely anyway.

**VectorHunter** · 04-15-2013 08:59 PM

No ones to blame, this show/game just wasn't made for you. There are plenty of people who love it including myself. Btw shooters contain shooting, ergo the name.

**IAMREALITY** · 04-15-2013 09:08 PM

...for not making the world revolve around you.

**Deioth** · 04-15-2013 09:09 PM

Originally Posted by Buruko

As a PC gamer I don't know why you cannot find community, however I believe players of Aion and WoW would be able to tell you quite different stories to their social community. A social community is what you put into it, not what it brings to you. You have to socialize to build anything otherwise everyone darts too and fro without an idea that 9 people might be on the same Story phase or side mission.

Now I'm on Xbox and I stood in Mt. Tam and had a great text based round table chat with about 8 players about our experiences so far, gun play, tactics, issues we've found and some of the work a rounds we came across for them. It was about a 20 minute conversation, in the end a few went off as they were still in the Mt Tam area and some went back to Iron Demon Range to check on mods. There are sites, forums, clans galore so far as I've seen.

Take a moment and go get social I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.

As for missed opportunity? If you haven't see the new content publish on the new Episode day as far as titles and rewards well... you've missed the boat completely anyway.

I'm shocked you got something going, and on Xbox no less. Unless they finally fixed it, chat's been pretty well broken and essentially useless on PC. Tack on the lack of any staple MMO features like central hubs or even area chat that isn't just /say and I'd be surprised anyone really gets anything going.

As for missed opportunity, well, I explained it as missed for sake of roleplayers. You'd think they'd have done something with a game that has a show (or show that has a game, whatever) but Defiance has even less than DC Universe going for it in that respect. All we really have is an online open world PvE shooter.

**rhodezie** · 04-15-2013 09:11 PM

Originally Posted by IAMREALITY

...for not making the world revolve around you.