Monthly Fees?

[Shadinaxx]

Then its agreed by all then. The game should not charge a monthly fee but should offer a special member service in which you pay to have access to really awesome in game bonus content which includes stuff like unique armour, unique weapons, access to rare missions, bonus storyline, maybe a ingame house, special contests to win cool Defiance gear(real), as well as access to upcoming previews of all thing Defiance show/game. I'd buy that for a dollar or 20 a month

Not really something I wanna see, that basically means wallet warrior. Yea, the extra stuff would be nice, but should be accessable by all, especially when it comes to gear. Do like SWTOR has just done, limit how much storage space you can use, how much of whatever kind of trade market you can use, end game specific raids make access on a micro transaction basis. However, I would have to throw my vote (if it means anything) to saying that anything purchaseable through real market currency would have to be limited to indirect game commodities.

@Vampero: FFXI was only 1 example, and iirc, the japanese sales were mostly on the PSN, who also seemed to always corner the market on all NMs for the needed quest gear etc. At least on the server I played (Asura). My point was that Consoles are new to MMO's, they've been begging for it, and the last 10-15 years, MMO's have been subbed. So, my answer to console gamers that are gonna whine about a sub on an MMO: wait and see, or get a job, my 12 year old nephew is saving every penny he can earn so he can pay for the game, and a year's subscription (if the marketting model is subbed). Can't be that hard to come up with 200 bucks in a year.

If it is the PSN sub fee, ontop of the internet access fees, and then the game fees, talk to PSN. MAYBE, if the game goes subbed, the sub fee will be included with the PSN membership fees. Let's face it, you buy a car, you pay for the fuel AND the maintenance, and the insurance, it's not included with the dealership fees. Same thing, just a differant potatoe.

[vampero]

Do like SWTOR has just done, limit how much storage space you can use, how much of whatever kind of trade market you can use, end game specific raids make access on a micro transaction basis. However, I would have to throw my vote (if it means anything) to saying that anything purchaseable through real market currency would have to be limited to indirect game commodities.

NO WAY ! SWTOR is the worst F2P system out there..paying for extra quick bars to put your skills on them. Random luck on getting items you want with you Cartel Coins ! Locking you to just two Characters to play. If Defiance goes the SWTOR way , I won't play Defiance. If they do it like Guild Wars 2 I will jump in with open arms !

[JellyBean]

The real problem is that alot of PC players won't mind paying a monthly subscription, while console players either already pay for xbox live or are mostly unwilling to pay a subscription fee. I'll have to admit paying sixty bucks for a game then being blocked out of a certain area and having to give up credit card info is a BIG damper.

[vampero]

The real problem is that alot of PC players won't mind paying a monthly subscription, while console players either already pay for xbox live or are mostly unwilling to pay a subscription fee. I'll have to admit paying sixty bucks for a game then being blocked out of a certain area and having to give up credit card info is a BIG damper.

Well said my friend ! You get it !

[Vega]

          

[Shadinaxx]

NO WAY ! SWTOR is the worst F2P system out there..paying for extra quick bars to put your skills on them. Random luck on getting items you want with you Cartel Coins ! Locking you to just two Characters to play. If Defiance goes the SWTOR way , I won't play Defiance. If they do it like Guild Wars 2 I will jump in with open arms !

I dont think it's quickbars, I'll have to jump on to check, I thought it was purelly storage, which was the focus of my post. SWTOR is flawed period, I only use it as a referance to something "new(ish)". Being able to purchase end game content access with cartel coins, instead of being forced to go full sub = nice.

ALL this is hinged only on speculation, so before we all go red faced and get our knickers all twisted up over it, let's wait an see what the pros have planned. THEN we can bring out the helium bottles and go pscyho gnomes

Like Jellybean said, PC gamers are more willing to pay a sub than consoles, and it's NOT the deveolper's fault for that, it's Xbox Live and Sony. Take it up with them, or wait and see.

[Taiphoz]

The second, and I do mean the second I see any kinda of item store that sells anything that makes my character stronger, healthier, shoot better or do more damage or gain more experiance faster I will take my PC copy and my sons XBOX copy of the game and smash them with a really large really heavy hammer.

The item mall freemium,free to play what ever the hell you want to call it model, has and is ruining the gaming industry, and I am thankful to those developers who are staying true to the monthly subscription system.

I **** you not, go near item malling and I and many many many others will be gone faster than you can blink.

[vampero]

I'm totally against paying for bs power bonus, stat increase, or special weapons that can give someone an advantage.

Someone correct me if I'm work but Defiance is continually evolving game? It coincides with a continually evolving show. So how will the developers keep getting paid to update the game? Lets face it that sales decline heavily after the initial release of a game and the gaming market is worse off this year with a 25% drop in revenue compared to last year. Its either expansion packs or subscription that will keep the game going long term or else it turns into the same old PvP with the same maps being played over and over.

We all need to keep posting this stuff on what we feel ,so In the end Defiance will be something you want to love to log in to.

[Augustus]

The second, and I do mean the second I see any kinda of item store that sells anything that makes my character stronger, healthier, shoot better or do more damage or gain more experience faster...

I was with you on the first four. Or, for that matter, anything that gives an advantage in combat.
But, the last (redundancy aside) I'm OK with. Assuming Trion is smart about PvP mechanics, increased experience doesn't have any real impact on a fight.

The company needs a revenue stream for continued development. And purely cosmetic stuff won't cut if they want extra money from me. I'd pay for an xp boost, but not for looks.

[Vega]

Call me old fashion but I'm a guy who likes to earn things instead of getting handed bonuses cause I slipped somebody an extra 20 dollar bill. I don't ever want to see a walkthrough written for someone who won't take the time figure how to deal with an ingame problem the way that I would. What's the point of playing a game if you are not using the most important skill(brain power) to figure the best way to survive a heavy combat situation or deal with a puzzle that unlocks some hidden mystery. Paying for upgrades might as well be called cheating.