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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowranger19 View Post
    Thats a little like saying you remember when cars had manual transmissions, so we shouldn't expect much from automatics.

    Times change.
    Cars still have manual transmissions? and they are still being made like that? i get your point but it really isn't something like that.
    anyways to OP like said earlier it's preferences and also most of the time it's a handful of ppl that are acting like this, not everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowranger19 View Post
    Or our country is bigger land-wise and we needed to shift gears more frequently due to higher speeds.
    If its actualy bigger, you would be more often on very very long stretched roads, going steady at 100km/h (or 200+ incase of germany ), making gearshifting no problem at all. Once you go beyond 80, and u dont have a 6th/overdrive, you are just driving the same gear all the time.

    And i think land-wise its not that much bigger, we just live alot more centralized

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    The game has barely been out two weeks, at most right? It is going to have some bugs, some issues, which they are hoping to work out right now. Every MMO has issues at its beginning, and Defiance was/is no different. Given time, it will work better and better.

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    You mad bro?

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    He is comparing a time when games were in the minority, the technology was limited, and expectations were not that high to a time when games are VERY popular and titles get more money spent than on films. It does not really make sense.

    When movies first came out, having flickers and spots on the film was ok. With the HD world, if your movie was flickering, people would storm the box office.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shootersa View Post
    Cars still have manual transmissions? and they are still being made like that? i get your point but it really isn't something like that.
    anyways to OP like said earlier it's preferences and also most of the time it's a handful of ppl that are acting like this, not everyone.

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    You are referring to a time when developers took their time pushing a product to market because there was not easy way to patch things once it was out.

    Today, development companies push things out half done and try to fix everything with patches. While this is a great convenience, it has be abused by development companies so that it happens WAY to much.

    This has resulted in upsetting the consumer who is tired of buying a game where none of the glaring issues are notes on the box, and once found that the wrapping was deceiving often has no recourse as they can not return an open game.

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    Who's to say a lot of gamers weren't the same back then, only difference now is they have the internet to easily share their frustrations. Now they can get their point across to companies and developers more easily than we could back then. I'm sure most people have plenty of other options to play on while they wait, but their frustration and not choosing to play another must mean they are really enjoying this game

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    I never remember waiting for SimFarm servers to finish patching..

    Oh wait.. thats because they didn't have servers back then..

    Quote Originally Posted by Evilution View Post
    Who's to say a lot of gamers weren't the same back then, only difference now is they have the internet to easily share their frustrations. Now they can get their point across to companies and developers more easily than we could back then. I'm sure most people have plenty of other options to play on while they wait, but their frustration and not choosing to play another must mean they are really enjoying this game

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    I dont think its really time-technology based, more mentality of the gamers. We are just fast-consumers now, if it aint up to the standard, its crap, we got the social media to express our voice and some other company is waiting to snatch those leavers for their game.

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    I'm also an old timey, crusty, dusty gamer......cut my gaming teeth in 81' with an Atari 2600. I have a lot of games on a bunch of different systems and my PC and I play games in "spurts". I play a game for several weeks and then move onto another game which I'll then play for several weeks. I get where you're coming from but as a gamer and a consumer I feel that I should be entitled to play a game once I pay for it. I work in the IT field as a system designer and let me just say that I really wish my clients and customers were as forgiving as a lot of the "give em a chance" crowd on this forum. If I promised a customer that something would be done by a certain date and it wasn't I'd get sued for breach of contract......or at the very least I could expect to lose them as a client, and rightfully so. Luckily for game companies there's a whole lot of tolerant customers out there.

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