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    Quote Originally Posted by ralisti View Post
    SyFy has cancelled many shows that were high budget and had a decent following because they could not justify the cost ratio. Watching the CGI last night, I have a fear that Defiance (TV show) will go the way of Sanctuary and the Stargate series. If this happens, I have the feeling the Defiance (the game) will go the way to Anarchy Online...a lesson in how not to do things.
    Anarchy Online? you mean the norwegian mmo that had a super rocky start, but eventually grew to become one of the great mmos? sounds good to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Munx View Post
    Anarchy Online? you mean the norwegian mmo that had a super rocky start, but eventually grew to become one of the great mmos? sounds good to me.
    ... and went on to produce 2 more MMOs afterwards?
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    Auction house? Why? It'll just render bits purchased lock boxes pointless, and weapons are mostly equal anyway.
    Gear/enemy progression? No thanks, it'll only render 90% of the content trivial when you reach the highest zone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bored Peon View Post
    Stargate Atlantis got cut off at end of season 5. Did not evne get a movie to tie up the ending.

    Stargate Universe was cut, but at least the ending was somewhat tied up.

    Sanctuary was cancled.

    Caprica was canceled.

    Alphas was canceled.


    It not just SyFy, any network these days soon as a program dips below a certain ratings number it gets the axe.

    Part of the Stargate problem comes from the Stargate franchise itself. They canceled their MMO a couple years back around the time Atlantis was canceled.
    Don't forget Eureka (and possibly Battlestar G). That show was awesome and it still got cancelled. SciFi does tend to kill the good shows and leave the crap ones (like the ghost hunters crap) on. I'm still really upset they cancelled any of the Stargate shows and Sanctuary. I don't necessarily miss Alphas (it was good in the beginning, but then kinda went downhill)

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    Do people just not understand that those were very good numbers for SyFy? The network execs are probably still squealing like little girls. Their new show, which already has sponsorship from a major corporation, just hit numbers on a par with the best of their programming in ages. It's all scotch and gummy bears for them, they're not looking for an excuse to sharpen the axe.

    Just to recap: best premiere for SyFy's target audience since Eureka, which, yes, was eventually cancelled... after FIVE seasons, which is enough to put it into syndication and a longer run than many non-scifi shows on other networks.

    Best total audience numbers for a SyFy premiere since Warehouse 13, which has not been cancelled and is starting its fourth season next week and is paired with Defiance in the schedule.

    I think I might wait to see what the numbers are for the second episode, but please, the fact that some other series didn't run until everyone on the cast died is probably not a reason for pessimism just yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ralisti View Post
    If this happens, I have the feeling the Defiance (the game) will go the way to Anarchy Online.
    Do you mean you expect it to last for a decade?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bored Peon View Post
    Stargate Atlantis got cut off at end of season 5. Did not evne get a movie to tie up the ending.

    Stargate Universe was cut, but at least the ending was somewhat tied up.

    Sanctuary was cancled.

    Caprica was canceled.

    Alphas was canceled.


    It not just SyFy, any network these days soon as a program dips below a certain ratings number it gets the axe.

    Part of the Stargate problem comes from the Stargate franchise itself. They canceled their MMO a couple years back around the time Atlantis was canceled.
    Going to stop you right there, Stargate Atlantis was not SyFy's fault that was all MGM and their pigheadedness they refused to release the rights on the already completed script for the Extinction movie and the producers themselves scrapped SGA so they could make SGU

    Sanctuary was not cancelled it was finished

    I don't know about the other two but I heard that Caprica was a failure

    V was disgusting though there was 0 reason for cancellation it was greed simply over 5 million viewers and they only needed another season to finish it.

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    There is a balance with quality and budget. You put too much budget in it, the show will probably be moderately successful, yet not enough to be profitable. Seeing as Defiance apparently has the biggest budget on SyFy and the lukewarm reception the pilot got (2.7 mil. viewers) I would not be so sure that the show will see more than two seasons. Trion might have to pump some money into the show to keep the whole Defiance boat afloat.
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    Pretty much every show gets canceled eventually. Eureka ran for 5 seasons; that's a pretty good run. Someone is bashing SyFy for canceling 'anything Stargate' but SG-1 ran for 10 years, Atlantis for 5. I'll give you SG-U. BSG ran 5 seasons, right? Warehouse 13 is on its 4 or so, I think Haven is too.

    SyFy is one of the MOST 'patient' networks on TV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ralisti View Post
    SyFy has cancelled many shows that were high budget and had a decent following because they could not justify the cost ratio. Watching the CGI last night, I have a fear that Defiance (TV show) will go the way of Sanctuary and the Stargate series. If this happens, I have the feeling the Defiance (the game) will go the way to Anarchy Online...a lesson in how not to do things.
    Stargate was 11 seasons and ran out of content. SGU was horrid. Sanctuary was ran and still is by Amanda Tapping. Defiance has 2 seasons in lock. The game will die for the show does. (and the rate its broke thats is the direction we are headed.)

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    Stargate SG-1 = 10
    Stargate Atlantis = 5 (would have preferred 7 then we wouldn't have had the BSG knock off of SGU)

    Sanctuary is over unless they 'revived' the plot

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