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    Quote Originally Posted by Arc Cero View Post
    All of these complainers about the lack of ridiculously high amounts of keycodes now. I personally would prefer to have to actually put in some effort to earn my lock boxes and from there, hopefully an orange weapon. Do you people think it's a bad decision for Trion to move their game in the right direction by patching a feature/glitch that shouldn't have been in the game in the first place? If so, that's too damn bad, in my opinion. If so, are you people also going to be mad when they change another feature, that is broken, as all MMO's eventually do? How about people who complain about the Saw'd offs being OP, but the people who used them complained that they were getting changed? Who's in the right here? the Majority? I don't think so. More balance in any direction is a step forward. and if people can't adapt and actually get of their metaphorical buttocks, then that's too bad. Miss out on what is only going to be another evolution in Trion's game. Though it is probably bad form to state this, it's the best example. If you want unbalanced gameplay, play nearly any FPS that's a franchise already, and leave us Defiants to our fun.
    Ill help you understand.

    The 3 tiers of lockboxes have no difference in drop rate for better weapons.

    Going with a T4 lockbox was not worth it, since you could get 6 weapons from two T3 for less than the price of 1 T4. Then once you bought a lockbox, the drop rate for quality weapons weren't THAT good.

    So the drop rate for was proportional to the speed that one could farm keys. Now that keys are more rare but lockboxes remain the same, why even care to grind the keys?

    They have successful;lyt made keys and lockboxes worthless. This is not an evolution, its a devolution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arc Cero View Post
    All of these complainers about the lack of ridiculously high amounts of keycodes now. I personally would prefer to have to actually put in some effort to earn my lock boxes and from there, hopefully an orange weapon. Do you people think it's a bad decision for Trion to move their game in the right direction by patching a feature/glitch that shouldn't have been in the game in the first place? If so, that's too damn bad, in my opinion. If so, are you people also going to be mad when they change another feature, that is broken, as all MMO's eventually do? How about people who complain about the Saw'd offs being OP, but the people who used them complained that they were getting changed? Who's in the right here? the Majority? I don't think so. More balance in any direction is a step forward. and if people can't adapt and actually get of their metaphorical buttocks, then that's too bad. Miss out on what is only going to be another evolution in Trion's game. just go play your already established franchises and leave us Defiants to our fun.
    If I play for an hour or so I would have earned enough keys to buy maybe a tier 3 box.... I'd get 3 weapons and they will all suck,,.. So please take your fan boi head out of trions preverbal *** kiddo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krazee DD View Post
    Ill help you understand.

    The 3 tiers of lockboxes have no difference in drop rate for better weapons.

    Going with a T4 lockbox was not worth it, since you could get 6 weapons from two T3 for less than the price of 1 T4. Then once you bought a lockbox, the drop rate for quality weapons weren't THAT good.

    So the drop rate for was proportional to the speed that one could farm keys. Now that keys are more rare but lockboxes remain the same, why even care to grind the keys?

    They have successful;lyt made keys and lockboxes worthless. This is not an evolution, its a devolution.
    They are not worthless, they improved in value, thats why they are called legendaries. You expected to go farm keycodes and get an orange weapon to sell on the forums. No. Atmost they took it away to fix how all of you can farm and boost them. They are still worthwhile. I've gotten more Orange weapons in T4 boxes than T3 boxes aswell. I'm pretty sure they will put a method out that will nerf the boosting of them. Or better yet, go replay story mode?

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    Neither of those were even relevant answers, though Krazee's had a bit more sense to it. I understand that once you were used to a feature, it hurts to lose it, especially how it benefited players as much the hell bug farming did. However, if that feature was never in the game in the first place, and it were to suddenly show up, players who had grinded up their keys and managed to find an orange weapon would be in a rage due to the fact that absolutely everyone could just earn and earn and earn and make their orange weapons worthless. As for the time to grind -> Profit spiel, I'm barely ego rating 400, never bought a lock box outside of resource purchase, and I've got 3 orange weapons. Even gave one away because I can't use LMGs. Grinding arkfalls is fun as hell (to me) and rewards enough keycodes relatively fast. so-called "Legendary" weapons should be scarce. It just boils down to people being too damn lazy, like I originally said. If you aren't going to put forth a legitmate effort, why should you get the same rewards as a person who does do the "Work" found in the game as it is now to actually earn himself or herself a great weapon?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andross View Post
    They are not worthless, they improved in value, thats why they are called legendaries. You expected to go farm keycodes and get an orange weapon to sell on the forums. No. Atmost they took it away to fix how all of you can farm and boost them. They are still worthwhile. I've gotten more Orange weapons in T4 boxes than T3 boxes aswell. I'm pretty sure they will put a method out that will nerf the boosting of them. Or better yet, go replay story mode?
    Its confirmed they upped the drop rate for oranges in lockboxes now?

    None of this was in the patch notes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenx View Post
    price of orange weps will go up now cause no ones gonna pay 5$ for a lock box when u arnt guaranted a orange
    What? When did lock boxes guarantee an orange?

    Also, Keycodes are CAKE to get. You can buy 1 for 1,000 Arkcash (or whatever it's called). I've got over 200,000 of that accomplishing nothing on my character, so I've essentially got a spare 200+ Keycodes for whenever I want them. IF you do Arkfalls or just quest, you'll get PLENTY of item drops to break down into Arkcash, then there's your mass of Keycodes.

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    You are aware that breaking down guns turns them into salvage and salvage buys you keys right?
    If you feel the need to farm something, go to one of the mines and constantly redo the missions there. Every boss type enemy drops a weapon which then equals ark salvage which then equals keys...why is that concept so lost on people lately?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wakamonke View Post
    You are aware that breaking down guns turns them into salvage and salvage buys you keys right?
    If you feel the need to farm something, go to one of the mines and constantly redo the missions there. Every boss type enemy drops a weapon which then equals ark salvage which then equals keys...why is that concept so lost on people lately?
    You're right, there are other ways to grind these that are almost just as fast.

    So why take it out? Now im just going to farm script in certain to buy these. Odd/bad decision.
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    Apparently Boarderlands destroyed peoples perception of Legendary Weapons before they could experience how difficult they should actually be to aquire. Even in this game drop rate for legendaries is too generous, yet none are ever satisfied.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andross View Post
    They are not worthless, they improved in value, thats why they are called legendaries. You expected to go farm keycodes and get an orange weapon to sell on the forums. No. Atmost they took it away to fix how all of you can farm and boost them. They are still worthwhile. I've gotten more Orange weapons in T4 boxes than T3 boxes aswell. I'm pretty sure they will put a method out that will nerf the boosting of them. Or better yet, go replay story mode?
    It never stated anywhere tier 4 boxes have higher chances of getting better weapons, on here or in game... My friends 1st tier 2 box he scored an orange shotgun.. I've so far received 2 from their 3 boxes. You would assume by the price of a tier 4 box that the rate would be better...

    I understand you can farm ark salvage just as fast and it's honestly not that big of a deal but it seems kind of pointless to take away key codes from the plethora of jobs there are to do around the map.
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