Trion is going the pay for everything route?

[jnt]

Ok, I'm still not getting it, I'm going to need someone to explain this to me like I'm five.

If the loot drops from the lockboxes aren't that great, then why are some of you buying so many of them? That, coupled with how apparently impossible it is now to get keycodes leaves me completely confused as to why you do it. It's like you're going out of your way to frustrate yourselves.

Next question: Throughout this thread people have mentioned/complained about how the sky will fall but loot won't when the "double loot boost" expires. Double? Did I miss something? When I look at my self loot boost it is +10%. It's certainly nice but nowhere near doubling the chance of drops. Mathematically a double loot bonus would be +100% so what gives with the "we will get noooo loot when the paid boost expires" chatter?

What is so hard to understand? If someone wants an orange item they have to buy a lockbox. The majority of rewards for lockboxes are terrible or useless.

Loot drops are already kind of bad. Why exactly do world drops not include purple or orange? Why is arkfall loot only grenades and shields but no orange items? There has never been a great explanation for this problem.

The game funnels people towards lockboxes. People desperate for some character growth. The patch made them more annoying and time consuming to acquire.

[xXChromeGhostXx]

Ok, I'm still not getting it, I'm going to need someone to explain this to me like I'm five.

If the loot drops from the lockboxes aren't that great, then why are some of you buying so many of them? That, coupled with how apparently impossible it is now to get keycodes leaves me completely confused as to why you do it. It's like you're going out of your way to frustrate yourselves.

Next question: Throughout this thread people have mentioned/complained about how the sky will fall but loot won't when the "double loot boost" expires. Double? Did I miss something? When I look at my self loot boost it is +10%. It's certainly nice but nowhere near doubling the chance of drops. Mathematically a double loot bonus would be +100% so what gives with the "we will get noooo loot when the paid boost expires" chatter?

I play the road missions that randomly pop up and farm them, within an hour i can max my keycodes out, but for me obtaining scrip is the hardest part, I primarily breakdown weapons found for resources as they are just as hard to obtain for me as scrip is. But this game is a random even with random drops each different for each person, yeah some may get the same gun, others get a gun in the same place as someone else but it's totally different. This is why I think it's hilarious watching the newbs bum rush an arkfall light. It's like they think that it drops an item for one person only, when i've seen them drop on the opposite side of the field. But again people just don't wanna realize the randomness of this game each person will obtain EVERYTHING differently, some may get scrip easier, some may resources, others like myself have been cursed with keycodes yaay. I Constantly have 75 keycodes with barely the scrip to use haha woot fun times.

[Angeleus09]

What is so hard to understand? If someone wants an orange item they have to buy a lockbox. The majority of rewards for lockboxes are terrible or useless....

I'm not saying you're wrong, (I have a few orange items but to be honest I don't remember where I got them. I've only bought 3 or 4 lockboxes as they seem pointless) but has this been directly stated by an official source or proven statistically? Or is it just of you and the people you know you've only gotten oranges from lockboxes?

The game funnels people towards lockboxes.

It would seem to be the opposite the way people paint the picture. The comments in here make it seem like people aren't getting oranges anyway.


And this isn't directed at you but did anyone have an answer for my second question?

[IGN]

I have no idea why they took out keys from the random events. This is a terrible idea.

PvPing for keys also sucks. You are pretty much limited to doing Arkfalls.

Either increase the key drop rates, or lower the cost of all lockboxes.

[xXChromeGhostXx]

I'm not saying you're wrong, (I have a few orange items but to be honest I don't remember where I got them. I've only bought 3 or 4 lockboxes as they seem pointless) but has this been directly stated by an official source or proven statistically? Or is it just of you and the people you know you've only gotten oranges from lockboxes?



It would seem to be the opposite the way people paint the picture. The comments in here make it seem like people aren't getting oranges anyway.


And this isn't directed at you but did anyone have an answer for my second question?

it's only a ten percent drop boost, it ends in 30 hours ( if speaking of one given away by Trion) and no it is not double, and as for Oranges I have gotten one Orange grenade from a lockbox out of atleast 50+ tried, also the tier 4 boxes are garbage, try tier 2-3 i recieved more purples from them than the 4th tier, and I have never seen an orange in field ( my experience ) But i have recieved purples and blues in some areas pretty easily and consistently, but as for drop chances who knows they have messed with this game so much that the game itself is confused I believe.

[Wolf]

Lock boxes suck. I always get crappy greens and maybe the odd blue if I'm lucky. Dunno if all the good stuff is in the tier 4 cos I only get the tier 2 and 3.

[ten4]

Yes, loot boost is double. I tested a whole evening without the boost and drops were near non-existant. I would go 20+ mobs before even ammo would drop. Then they gave us these boosts and it was right back to mad drops where most mobs consitantly yeild 1-3 lootables. When this buff ends, I think some of you are in for a surprise and not a good one. Expect to pay 160 bits a day just to get loots again. Wee....

[SteveMND]

I'm not saying you're wrong, (I have a few orange items but to be honest I don't remember where I got them. I've only bought 3 or 4 lockboxes as they seem pointless) but has this been directly stated by an official source or proven statistically? Or is it just of you and the people you know you've only gotten oranges from lockboxes?

Maybe it was a fluke, but I've definitely gotten an orange from random loot before, because I got one in the first couple of days of the game before I knew what lockboxes were or how to use them. Heck, I went around for a while asking if anybody wanted it in return for helping me move another gun from one of my characters to another, but due to the lack of proper chat, etc., I never had any takers. Since it wasn't a weapon I like using (sawn-off shottie), I ended up eventually breaking it down, I think.

[xXChromeGhostXx]

Yes, loot boost is double. I tested this whole evening without the boost and drops were near non-existant. I would go 20+ mobs before even ammo would drop. Then they gave us these boosts and it was right back to mad drops where most mobs consitantly yeild 1-3 lootables. When this buff ends, I think some of you are in for a surprise and not a good one. Expect to pay 160 bits a day just to get loots again. Wee....

It is not double, also I would like to know how you turned your loot boosts etc off? amazing :P also how does 10% replicate into 50%? unless your clan/group/self has bought more boosts from the store and applied them yourself. Also anyone who is willing to dump money, real money, into this game day after day for nothing is an idiot even for thinking that, hello bankruptcy, why we broke? Oh i spent my whole paycheck on a video game loot box so i could have a cool orange colored named weapon.... Also i had o trouble getting loot before these bonuses kicked in.

[hardy83]

I think the keys and lock boxes are fine.

I do agree the vehicles and outfits in the store are really overpriced.
Trion clearly looked at games like GW2, LOTRO and WoW and based the prices on that.
I honestly don't know ANY MMO where vanity items are fairly priced.

Clothing shouldn't cost more than $2-3 bucks. I don't know why they don't understand that if you price the stuff lower, more people will buy them, and more people will buy MORE than one item.
Since many of the items are just reskined/coloured, it can't be that expensive to throw a bunch up all the time.