That is my fear, that by the time they get around to patching up the PC version into an actual PC game everyone will be gone already. I understand why they care more about 360 and PS3 when it comes to Defiance, I just know based on Rift that if they really wanted to they could make Defiance amazing on PC. With them allowing PC mods maybe the modding community can make up for some of it.Originally Posted by Rend
Quit, maybe. Forgotten........I think not my friend, or you wouldn't be on here.
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I seem to remember reading somewhere that offering a better mouse & keyboard UI was on the list.... but of course now I can't find a link for you.
It's pretty dumb that whenever I want to use the Salvage Matrix I reach down and grab a gamepad since the UI is so much easier/faster that way. It's actually faster to change control devices, break down a few weapons, and switch back, than it is to break them down using mouse and keyboard. Particularly after the latest patch.
And key, for all its broken-ness, I still am enjoying the hell out of the game...
I totally agree, the game is so friggin fun I can't stop playing. I just see so much damn potential for even more awesomness with just a few little changes. Why oh why does it have to be cross platform lol. I definitely still have high hopes for the future of this game.
they were thinking that console players dont use keyboards to chat in online games so why bother
I don't get it. I tested today, I sent a tell just fine (type /t <name> <message>) works 100%
If you're talking about the chat issue that is affecting ALL chat channels, like where it just wont send your message for some reason, yes, that is affecting tells, group, clan, and area chats...
The chat system works though. I've tested it and used it plenty and have yet to have it completely unusable for me.
Now... the VOICE chat no, I have not gotten that to work. But then I don't see that as a requirement for games. I have VOIP clients.
Here is a complete pointless remark from my side: sigh
It´s really all I can say.
I don't want this to turn into another "fix chat" thread, but...
Yes the system they have in place is "functional" but in comparison to every other chat in every other online game it is complete rubbish. I feel completely disconnected from everyone around me with no way to talk to them. They need to copy and paste the code for the Rift chat system into Defiance lol. Wish it were that easy!
Hopefully we don't have to wait for all the cross-platform stuff to be completely worked out before they at least give PC users an exclusive form of text chat. I know what they have said, but after this last patch that was supposed to "fix" chat, I fear we will have to wait a while for a PC exclusive chat patch, especially after reading the responses in this thread.
On the flip side of the coin, maybe they will implement other PC exclusives at the same time when they do finally get around to properly fixing chat.
here's me echoing that sigh.
the person you quoted doesn't seem to get that this chat is subpar to hl1 mp mod chat from 15 years ago.
being able to whisper people certainly is nice. what would be even nicer is if the person who is hte subject of said whisper had a reasonable chance of seeing said whisper.
i spent an hour yday trying to chat with people at the crater bar after making a thread about encouraging people to socialize at a hubu in game. me and another guy did post, but both missed each other by who knows how long.
I whispered someone earlier today saying "Hiya!" and they immediately turned, looked at me, and stared. I think they didn't know how to respond. However, I know for a FACT they saw me or they wouldn't have reacted so. The chances of a random person coincidentally turning and looking directly at me after I send them a hello in a /t message is pretty low I think.\
If you want, I'll go out of my way to thoroughly test it. I will even record my testing of it to make sure it's documented. I'm pretty sure, though, that most MMO's launch with chat systems not much more complicated than this one.
Things I know this could have:
- Chat tabs
- Changing colors for channels/message types
- Custom channels
- Combat data presented in a tab for useful parsing
- Resizable chat window (this kinda goes in the "improved PC UI" area though)
All of those things are not requirements to chat, they're just improvements and additions that give you more ways to do it, or to personalize the experience.
I'm a VERY social gamer. I play MMO's almost entirely to BE social. I know this because in my literal YEARS of playtime on World of Warcraft I definitely spent a vast majority of that either with other people or alone but chatting with other people. That's why I played, because of the friends I met there and the fun times we had together or sharing our fun times with each other.
As I said, I've had no problems with chatting in this game. The biggest complication is the community is not yet aggressively using the chat system. You don't see people chatting that much. But - its starting to happen. Just like all MMO's it started slow but it is gaining momentum.
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Remember - bugs are bugs, poor chat systems are poor chat systems. This has bugs, but it is functioning, and while it is not overly complex or may have room for a lot of useful features, they have to take care of the bugs first (and they will in time, they still have bigger fish to fry in my opinion).
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