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    like ^^^ said, I have the points sitting on my account, just waiting for me to press the button. The first content they roll out will decide it for me. I'm not making the same mistake I made with Borderlands picking up a season pass that had a bunch of cheap cash in content.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jardian View Post
    Dude the person who made this thread was whineing about the keycode drops being fixed and it becoming pay to win now. That was the whole base for this troll post. So step off before you come to your mates rescue because he got caught.
    The way I interpret it he is talking about the Season pass.

    I'm actually supportive of removing the key rewards for emergency events because those are way too good and makes a mockery of missions/arkfalls rewards. (See this thread http://forums.defiance.com/showthrea...-rolls-are-bad)

    In any case, as Star Commander of the Defiance Forum Community (self appointed) I hereby hijack the thread to talk about the Season pass.

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    Of course everyone will get the same content, it's part of the world. Doesn't mean they'll be able to access the new content or gain anything from it.

    At least this thread isn't telling people to hold off because of the sweet shades error!
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    After the mess with the Battlefield 3 Season pass i will wait and see how the first DLC is. It will come a price drop sooner or later!


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    Quote Originally Posted by DOOM996 View Post
    After the mess with the Battlefield 3 Season pass i will wait and see how the first DLC is. It will come a price drop sooner or later!
    I somehow doubt the season pass for this game will be put on sale anytime soon. Especially with next gen systems right around the corner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erei View Post
    Pay to win ?
    That's weird, I check the cash shop almost everyday, and I haven't seen any weapons, mods, or gameplay boost (except for the usual xp boost). You want to see pay to win ? Play APB, with unique OP gun from the cash shop (may have changed, haven't played in like 1 year), or Battlefield play4free/heroes, with better cash shop weapon than ingame weapon (the same, with better stats).

    If you consider lockboxes "pay to win", it's not. The orange gun are not really better than a purple. Except if you are an hardcore min maxer.
    I never grinded keys ingame, never paid for it, but still opened 10-20tier 3 lockboxes, minimum. It's not based on how much you pay, but on luck. You can be lucky, and have your perfect orange gun in 3 attempt ingame. Or be the average player/unlucky, and pay 500$ for it and still not have it. Paying or not have nothing to do with that. Chances are the same for paid/free lockboxes.

    BTW, for some reason, you forget to mention a very convenient exploit. You can "tag" any arkfall, and earn the full (or almost full) reward for it. Just kill something, do a bit of damage, and that's it, lots of scrips, keys, and xp. But somehow, you completly forget to mention this incredibly easy way to have free keys.
    Are you ignorant or just blind? What do you think is inside those Lockboxes they sell in their store for $$$! Rofl. My friend has already bought like $100 worth of bits, opened like 30+ T3 lockboxes and is already wearing full orange weapons/shield/grenades with prefect stats, all from lockboxes! Literally not a single piece of gear hes gotten from playing the actual games. He is only Ego lvl 260 and places tops in the scoreboard in every arkfall, co-op mission and pvp match. So please dont come in here spouting that this game is not pay to win when it so obviously is. Too bad your rampant fanboism is preventing you from seeing it. ANY game that sells LOOT for real life money is PAY TO WIN no matter how cleverly they try to disguise it (cough LOCKBOXES cough)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wtflag View Post
    Dude. We are talking about the Season pass, not about bits for lockboxes.
    No. OP is talking about the direction in which the devs are taking this game, which he believes is the "pay to win" direction. That's what Jardian was responding to, and very well I might add.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alasen View Post
    Are you ignorant or just blind? What do you think is inside those Lockboxes they sell in their store for $$$! Rofl. My friend has already bought like $100 worth of bits, opened like 30+ T3 lockboxes and is already wearing full orange weapons/shield/grenades with prefect stats, all from lockboxes! Literally not a single piece of gear hes gotten from playing the actual games. He is only Ego lvl 260 and places tops in the scoreboard in every arkfall, co-op mission and pvp match. So please dont come in here spouting that this game is not pay to win when it so obviously is. Too bad your rampant fanboism is preventing you from seeing it. ANY game that sells LOOT for real life money is PAY TO WIN no matter how cleverly they try to disguise it (cough LOCKBOXES cough)
    your buddy wasted his cash, he would have had the same chance if he actually played the games, earned those keys and bought the boxes that way. He wasted 100 dollars buying content he could have earned in the game.... Also at level 260 he wasted those weapons, higher level would have netted him far better bonuses on those orange weapons.

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    I spent €70 on the Deluxe edition and around €30 on the cash store (an outfit, inventory space, a roller, with 1200 or so bits leftover). I feel that it's now Trion's turn to polish the game and improve their customer support before I'm handing them more money, so I haven't bought the Season Pass. I'm not entirely happy with the game right now, especially in terms of lasting appeal, so this is as far as my support goes for the moment. Keeping some money on the table isn't necessarily a bad idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skumberg View Post
    No. OP is talking about the direction in which the devs are taking this game, which he believes is the "pay to win" direction. That's what Jardian was responding to, and very well I might add.
    Logically, if the developers are really going for pay to win, wouldn't it make MORE sense to buy the DLCs because they are sure to include the +11 Vorpal Blade of Epic Awesomeness (deals 9001 melee damage per hit) as DLCs exclusive content?

    I think we are on the same side in that we don't believe Trion is making the game a pay2win game. I have played over 2000 hours of Diablo 3: the AH tycoon simulator and have a 5Billion gold character and earned about $400+ USD (of which I used some to pay for defiance). That game is pay2win. Defiance is not.

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