Hold fire on buying the season pass!

[Shinji Ex]

...wow. I really need to start reading product descriptions before i buy... You know what? Now i'm not even sure what i bought. What did i buy?? What is a season pass?? What's inside?? What. Is. Insiiiiide????

And why is my hat a pair of sunglasses?? Why. Is. My. Hat. A. Pair. Of. Suuuuuuuuuuunglasses????

You're welcome, trion. You earned this fevered post by making me play your game until 6am.

+1

/lol

[Orge Lambart]

They haven't announced any content included with the season pass. I wouldn't mind having additional content only people who purchased the season pass get access too. If I can play the content without the season pass, what incentive do I have to spend 30 dollars on it. Like expansions for an MMO, only the people with the expansion gets access to those zones, those quest, those missions, etc etc etc.

I don't think 30 dollars is worth some guns, a new race, a new vehicle and new missions. Now you open up that land north of where we currently have opened and add an extension to the main quest, new side missions, and new cars up there, I'm all for it.

I like the game, I've already spent an additional 10 dollars buying inventory slots. I have zero issues paying for the season pass if I'm getting content that can't be accessed otherwise, or content that is worth the purchase. The actual description of what you are paying for is very barren at the moment. A new alien race, new weapon (no mention of current weapon types or a new weapon type), new vehicle (no mention of a reskinned vehicle or a totally new type being added like the hauler), new missions (no mention if these missions will be exclusive to season pass holders or open for everyone, the consensus seems up in the air and mixed. I'd wager only for pass holders but no confirmation yet)

So I think if they want to sell passes a better way to get that done is actually giving information on what content we are purchasing. As it stands right now, they could give you one gun, one reskinned car, one mission everyone has access to and call it a day on season pass holders.

[Seporator]

Here the thing no one seems to get. This game isn't a subscription based game. You want content and time invested in developing the game and keeping the servers running. You have to support it. I want to see the game keep going as it is by far the most unique console game to come out. I get to run around a large open world with my friends, in a world larger then the one in red dead with a ton more things to do. Complete the story with friends or solo. Its not a grind fest because the lateral progression system when the only thing that gets better are the weapons innate bonuses. No need to grind gear if you really dont want to. Your not forced to to see the end game like ever other mmo. You want to see the content your paying for better plan to invest countless hours grinding to get it done.

I've bought outfits and inventory space as the lock boxes are rather pointless to buy. The weapon ya can get out of them aren't worth the money required.

If you dont want to see the game stop being supported or for the game company try to increase the revenue and it truely become a pay to win where you get one hitter quiter weapon out the store for 30$ then pony up 5$ from time to time.

Season passes for a game like this gives the company a good idea of how much time and $$ they can put into the game.

Same people in this thread saying im not paying for this or that or im not buying an outfit are the same people who will be on the forums whining about lack of content in dlc and updates you want Trion to show support for the game you as the fan/consumer have to give them a reason to do so. You show no support it will be reflected in how much content will be developed for this game.

No company will throw money down the drain on a game where the fan base doesn't support it.
Won't buy a dlc season pass for an mmo, but you throw 50$ at cod for a handfull of maps you'll be sick of in a month....then whine about lack of support or content.

Well said Sir...

[Orge Lambart]

As a consumer you speak with your mouth, I told Trion I feel the game they created is worth my 60 dollars, they want to sell me an additional 30 dollars worth of content, they need to do the very basic and provide me with information on what I'm buying. This sight unseen season pass stuff has proven to outlast it's usefulness.

I can't recall the last time I purchased a season pass and felt it was a good purchase. It's typically rushed out content made to meet the required X amount of content. This is why a lot of companies use them now. They can release one stellar piece of content, then phone the rest in. Most people buy the pass based on that first piece of content.

[Mivo]

Here the thing no one seems to get. This game isn't a subscription based game. You want content and time invested in developing the game and keeping the servers running. You have to support it

There is a different way of looking at this, though. With a subscription-based game, you can cancel at any time, which means the developer has an interest in keeping you around. They want to keep getting your money and have to keep earning it every month. For example, when WoW went into a direction I didn't really care for, I let my subscription lapse.

In Defiance, if you hand them $60 for the base game, $30 for the SP, maybe another $30 for the cash store, all in the first month, they get all your money upfront. In some ways, you've become "dry", from a "cash cow" perspective. I'm not saying that there is anything really wrong with getting the Season Pass, either. Just pointing out an alternate view.

As I wrote before, I gave them money for a deluxe version and spent some money in the cash store. That IS support, because it's twice as much as I usually spend on games. I could have gotten the standard edition and not spent anything on bits. I'm entirely willing to give them more money down the road, but they will have to "earn" it by polishing the game and improving issues that currently don't make me an entirely satisfied customer. It's their turn. I first trusted them by giving them money without having seen or played the game, and now they will have to trust me that there is more cash that I'm willing to give to them.

Defiance is in a better place than F2P games that also have server and support costs, and they don't get $60+ upfront from every player.

[CaptainRaj]

Same people in this thread saying im not paying for this or that or im not buying an outfit are the same people who will be on the forums whining about lack of content in dlc and updates you want Trion to show support for the game you as the fan/consumer have to give them a reason to do so. You show no support it will be reflected in how much content will be developed for this game.

No company will throw money down the drain on a game where the fan base doesn't support it.
Won't buy a dlc season pass for an mmo, but you throw 50$ at cod for a handfull of maps you'll be sick of in a month....then whine about lack of support or content.

This is absolutely spot on. It seems the trollers, whingers and cry babies don't understand basic economics. I haven't, as yet, bought a season pass because I'd like to see where I am with the game in a month. If, like you say about CoD above, am bored, I won't buy the season pass. However, at the moment, my addiction and enjoyment for this game just grows..... exponentially! I've got so much work to do (for my "real" job) but I'm sat here on the defiance forum and spent most of the morning talking to my boss about the show and game!

But, as you say, CoD is the biggest waste of money, in my opinion. I buy it every time, and after a month I sit there and say to myself; "Never again." A tiny, scripted and easy campaign coupled with a PvP experience which leaves me RAGING!

[Nexos_Arc]

i just bought the Season Pass from GMG for 28$ ... -5$ from a voucher i had.

IMHO the game is worth supporting.

The gameplay is innovative considering its "massive co-op" and the performance is impressive (on PC from AUS) for such a fast game. story is ok'ish and there is lots of potential for more content/ activities/ social etc. I personally also like the flat power curve, but i understand thats not everyone's taste.

and yes, i do see the issues ... crappy pc ui, social interaction =0 atm, bugs, bugs .... all which can be fixed .... i hope.

and the show. well average at best, imho. i was very keen to watch it - and thx to some forum posters I did. had higher expectations. Babylon5 was better .... but memory might trick me after 15yrs. However, more of the backstory was explained in-game online than in the show ... like why the votans came and what happened to Earth. Anyway, I take it for what it is and will keep watching.

[Melfice]

you want pay to win 12sky2 go try that

[CaptainRaj]

and the show. well average at best, imho. i was very keen to watch it - and thx to some forum posters I did. had higher expectations. Babylon5 was better .... but memory might trick me after 15yrs. However, more of the backstory was explained in-game online than in the show ... like why the votans came and what happened to Earth. Anyway, I take it for what it is and will keep watching.

I watched the trailer and had very low expectations for the show. Then I read some reviews which were good and my expectations went up. I really enjoyed the show. I think it could do with a two or three more central characters though...

[Mental]

bought the season pass for £14 on greenman gaming using latest discount code, don't grudge paying that