Nerf Bunny Hopping - Diminishing Returns

[Sdric]

Funny how aggressive and insulting people get if you suggest that their PvP score are bad because other players are simply better and that they should avoid blaming any technical equiment they find to point their fingers at.

I do know how pings and servers work, but I also know how short 0,080 seconds are (user->server->math->user).
In times of nation-wide fibre glass internet it is simply rediciulous to argue about "delay" breaking a game.

1.) If the server is laggy everybody is facing the same problems.
-> The severs ain't laggy
Either it's your own internet or you're simply making things up.
I'm playing in a very PvP orientated part of my clan and I have yet to hear any complains about hitboxes or lag.

2.) I said that I do bunny hop, however my main weapons are SMGs and Assault Rifles (Mazu) (both on 17/20).
It's funny how you accuse me of using grenade launchers and AoE weapons and furthermore be a bad player though you never faced me.
Please stop making things up or I can't take you serious anymore.
But it again proves that you assume everybody else of playing "unfair" when you fail, thanks

3.) Again.
Why does hit detection work on jumping targets perfectly fine for my SMGs, my ARs and my whole clan - but for you "they are bad and laggy".
Please show a little bit of self reflection, calling me names does neither help you nor me.
Maybe it's not the server but it is you.
Shots do register fine.

[RtCW DeMilLeR]

Funny how aggressive and insulting people get if you suggest that their PvP score are bad because other players are simply better and that they should avoid blaming any technical equiment they find to point their fingers at.

I do know how pings and servers work, but I also know how short 0,080 seconds are (user->server->math->user).
In times of nation-wide fibre glass internet it is simply rediciulous to argue about "delay" breaking a game.

1.) If the server is laggy everybody is facing the same problems.
-> The severs ain't laggy
Either it's your own internet or you're simply making things up.
I'm playing in a very PvP orientated part of my clan and I have yet to hear any complains about hitboxes or lag.

2.) I said that I do bunny hop, however my main weapons are SMGs and Assault Rifles (Mazu) (both on 17/20).
It's funny how you accuse me of using grenade launchers and AoE weapons and furthermore be a bad player though you never faced me.
Please stop making things up or I can't take you serious anymore.
But it again proves that you assume everybody else of playing "unfair" when you fail, thanks

3.) Again.
Why does hit detection work on jumping targets perfectly fine for my SMGs, my ARs and my whole clan - but for you "they are bad and laggy".
Please show a little bit of self reflection, calling me names does neither help you nor me.
Maybe it's not the server but it is you.
Shots do register fine.

I play AR/BMG/DECOY with 360 pad on PC platform, maybe played pvp match more than 20hours.
As you already said, shotgun is the problem. (I think infector too.)
Other weapons are not available to kill someone while jumping
(Even specific AR & SR also couldnt kill someone while moving though)

But shotgun... huh.. I want give them compensate inaccuracy like others and
Airborne Recoil so when they shot 1 shells in the air send crosshair to Space. lol
Rocket launchers are fine but... Incendiary rocket is annoying.
Seems blast shield is not working.

[Sdric]

Sdric your a ******...

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There is no skill in jumping and using a AOE weapon. You are a pathetic tool if you think using a AOE while jumping means skill.

Addition:
As a response to people accusing me of being a PvP AoE spammer I raise you my weapon levels:
SMGs: 18
ARs: 18
Pistols: 13

Rocket Launchers: 1
Detonators: 6 (Now blame me for being rank 6 after 2400 EGO by using a Ground Pounder against Hellbug Warriors)

So, please cool down kid.
I hope this stops some of the trash talk so we actually can discuss the topic, ty.

[Aidan415]

A change wanted by the masses yet it's only a 6 page long thread made up primarily of the same people.

I'd bet that the "Masses" infact don't really care and don't have the same issues that you're having,but there would definitely be more threads of people wondering why jumping was gimped if such a thing happened.

Stuck on repeat but the fact that you're struggling with jumping the now then it would of been hell on earth for you in beta as jumping has already been nerfed once. It was made so that the player would be much more floaty on his descent and the distance he could move forward was reduced aswell so that even the most incompetent players could land shots on them.

Surely i don't have to create another video simply to prove a point of how easy it is to shoot a player jumping with any weapon.

[RtCW DeMilLeR]

A change wanted by the masses yet it's only a 6 page long thread made up primarily of the same people.

I'd bet that the "Masses" infact don't really care and don't have the same issues that you're having,but there would definitely be more threads of people wondering why jumping was gimped if such a thing happened.

Stuck on repeat but the fact that you're struggling with jumping the now then it would of been hell on earth for you in beta as jumping has already been nerfed once. It was made so that the player would be much more floaty on his descent and the distance he could move forward was reduced aswell so that even the most incompetent players could land shots on them.

Surely i don't have to create another video simply to prove a point of how easy it is to shoot a player jumping with any weapon.

Well. Then try shoot someone with FRC (Heavy) Assault carbine with “Xbox controller“ on PC platform while Aim down sight against Shot gun hopper in Mid to Close range. Oh well, Long range Infector user too.
You would realize its problem. lol.
You gonna say pad users fault? Well. Trion should not make option at first in that case.

Also, you talking about masses, maybe they using shotgun & hopping. Not like us.

[Huckleberry]

Addition:
As a response to people accusing me of being a PvP AoE spammer I raise you my weapon levels:
SMGs: 18
ARs: 18
Pistols: 13

Rocket Launchers: 1
Detonators: 6 (Now blame me for being rank 6 after 2400 EGO by using a Ground Pounder against Hellbug Warriors)

So, please cool down kid.
I hope this stops some of the trash talk so we actually can discuss the topic, ty.

Those pictures are clearly made with MS Paint. Cmon.

[Sdric]

Those pictures are clearly made with MS Paint. Cmon.

Rather with my smartphone since non-steam (afaik) users get a white box within a black screen when they try to make a screenshot, lol.
I hope they make a button for it soon.

[Aidan415]

why would anyone use an xbox controller on a pc and why would you be at close range aiming down your sights

[Amonkira]

Addition:
As a response to people accusing me of being a PvP AoE spammer I raise you my weapon levels:
SMGs: 18
ARs: 18
Pistols: 13

Rocket Launchers: 1
Detonators: 6 (Now blame me for being rank 6 after 2400 EGO by using a Ground Pounder against Hellbug Warriors)

So, please cool down kid.
I hope this stops some of the trash talk so we actually can discuss the topic, ty.

Since weapon lvls resets at lvl 20, this proves nothing mate.

[Maeson]

I have to go with the suggestion that you can't fire when jumping. It's the easiest solution to any such problem.

Diminishing jump height is an option but it'd be more difficult to implement and in that case you could go so far as to have a stamina system/bar.

As for rocket launchers... I use it, but only in Shadow Wars. I have a lock-on launcher that I try to use mainly against vehicles. I just wish they had a damage bonus against them. I have killed a few infantry with it, but that has been more because I could, then that i should.
Each weapon should have their place and for some reason, rocket launcher in close quarters is not something that comes to mind.

Off topic: I simply don't understand the design decision about incorporating grenade launching shotguns. We already HAVE grenade launchers.