Nerf Bunny Hopping - Diminishing Returns

[Huckleberry]

Such a shame that people can no longer make genuine observational comments and suggestions on how to improve on a situation without having to deal with huge amounts of backlash from childish individuals. Odly enough whether or not you accept and understand that using this "tactic", using the term lightly, is a cheap and pathetic way to gain an edge and ultimately score more "points" than someone who wishes not to.

No, whats a shame is that maybe 5% of these "genuine observational comments and suggestions" are actually comments and suggestions. The other 95% are just people who are really bad at this game, and who wont be playing altogether much longer. Yet, their cries still get heard/seen. Possibly having an effect on the game they wont even be playing in [insert random time here]

I am NOT saying it is impossible to kill people using this "tactic", however I AM saying that certain loadouts will find it incredibly difficult to beat this "tactic" which does not create a level playing field from the begining, REGARDLESS of skill. Random factors should not be part of a skill based game, in my opinion. Ideally, in a perfect world, pvp would consist of a level playing field, everyone would have exactly the same loadouts and left to it, that would be a proper game of skill.

So basically, you just want to kill everyone with your single loadout. Even tho the game has loadout slots. Maybe you should start a thread about changing the route we have to take to change loadouts. Easier, faster. Ive seen these before, so i know other people feel the same, even myself. Everyone with the same loadout. No game does that, cause thats stupid. All the cool kids would just cry about how there is no customization, or something. They will surely find something.

Secondly, those that choose to use this "tactic" have no right to abuse those that don't, and claim that they are rubbish at the game or just have to "aim up" get off your high horse and join the real world please. Don't urinate on those of us who wish to avoid using such a cheap method and call it rain. Let's face it, ultimately if they did remove the ability to do this, those of you that do would not have a leg to stand on, most likely quitting the game in a fit of rage in favour of another FPS that allows it.

So the people who learn to adapt, need to get off our high horse and just complain? YeahNo. Even if they did somehow nerf jumping, it would make it like the other 50% shooter games. You can either do it, or not.

Lastly it is obvious that most people on forums are simply here to "flame" and "troll", good for you, nice to know you have your life in check and have nothing better to do than waste multiple people's time sifting through your crap, congratulations.

I can only hope that next time you make a comment somewhere in the real world about something being "stupid" or "wrong" that everyone within 100M radius turns around calling you a "noob".

Yeah, we come here to troll and flame, while you come here to just cry and pout. See how this works? It goes back and fourth, over and over. I can go on about how your life must be all set up right and stuff, but weve all heard that, havent we?

And the last comment had to be a joke. If someone is doing something wrong around me, ill try to teach them the right way, or the best way to do it to my knowledge. Just like i do here. And they will either take the information, or get angry cause they werent doing it right and go on and on about how im an ***hole for thinking i know everything.

[Zantros]

Nerf Forums.. Clearly it is far more OP than bunny hopping.. Also, nerf video game logic.. It makes way too much sense.. Gravity also needs a nerf.. I try to escape it, but it always catches me.. Most importantly, nerf nerfing! Nothing should have the power to weaken EVERYTHING!

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Forgot to add a comma between "importantly" and "nerf"..

[Upinya Slayin]

Such a shame that people can no longer make genuine observational comments and suggestions on how to improve on a situation without having to deal with huge amounts of backlash from childish individuals. Odly enough whether or not you accept and understand that using this "tactic", using the term lightly, is a cheap and pathetic way to gain an edge and ultimately score more "points" than someone who wishes not to.

I am NOT saying it is impossible to kill people using this "tactic", however I AM saying that certain loadouts will find it incredibly difficult to beat this "tactic" which does not create a level playing field from the begining, REGARDLESS of skill. Random factors should not be part of a skill based game, in my opinion. Ideally, in a perfect world, pvp would consist of a level playing field, everyone would have exactly the same loadouts and left to it, that would be a proper game of skill.

Secondly, those that choose to use this "tactic" have no right to abuse those that don't, and claim that they are rubbish at the game or just have to "aim up" get off your high horse and join the real world please. Don't urinate on those of us who wish to avoid using such a cheap method and call it rain. Let's face it, ultimately if they did remove the ability to do this, those of you that do would not have a leg to stand on, most likely quitting the game in a fit of rage in favour of another FPS that allows it.

Lastly it is obvious that most people on forums are simply here to "flame" and "troll", good for you, nice to know you have your life in check and have nothing better to do than waste multiple people's time sifting through your crap, congratulations.

I can only hope that next time you make a comment somewhere in the real world about something being "stupid" or "wrong" that everyone within 100M radius turns around calling you a "noob".

The thing is every game has bunny hopping (and FYI defiance doesn't have bunny hopping, it has jumping) There is a difference. do you want people to site there in front of you and just take your bullets? i don't understand what people think sometime. and then some people call it cheap? its nto as cheap as people camping corners cloaked with a shotgun or people taking the high ground and randomly lobbing explosives into battles down low. both of those cheap tactics put you at almsot 0 risk, at least bunny hopping doesn't work agains people who just simply hop back or aim up. I've also gotten the hang of circling other players while shooting them and they can't seem to hit me so does that mean it needs to be nerfed?

[Zantros]

Nerf Common Sense! Oh wait.. It isn't common.. disregard.. Already nerfed..

[Mynx]

This is a serious flaw in PVP, there is absolutely no point in PVP existing if players are allowed to jump consistantly to exploit hit boxes and bullet registration. While I am sure many threads like this already exist, and many kids or skill-less players will object, this has to be done. I propose either implementing diminishing returns, so that jumping within 5 seconds of another jump will make you jump lower and also slow your character down, fire speed, movement speed, or some kind of discouragement. Alternatively completely remove the option to jump at all from PVP maps. I understand this would be difficult for shadow wars, however perfectly plauseable for PVP maps as they are instanced.

The fact that people are able to jump constantly and spam explosives/incendiaries at the ground and think they are clever just annoys the hell out of anyone who actually wants to play properly. Those of us with any FPS experience know bunnyhopping is childish and annoying, many FPS have added a system to prevent it, please add one as well. The PVP system is just a joke until this gets sorted out.

Also, please sort out a bug where perks are removed upon entering a PVP match, or other instanced areas. They may just be removed randomly throughout gameplay, however I have noticed it more during PVP/Co-Op.

while id have to agree with this in a way i dont because bunny hopping is the only way i can get away from these bad players abusing shotguns

[Cerealkilla]

Nerf jumping? LOL

[Galdoblame]

seriously,this is getting ridiculous. WHO THE **** COMPLAIN ABOUT BUNNY HOPPING? FFS if your TOO BAD TO AIM SOME1 WHO JUMP,stop COMPLAIN.

FFS,i'm pissed,really pissed and tired of those whinning.

return to your bf3 bs,or lean to play game like quake and ut. go play SMNC and THEN come back complaining about bunny hopping.

this is it,i'm pissed. gonna make a macro that will make me jump permenantly by keep pressing space.

[gtr]

Are you kidding me?
What online shooting game doesn't allow you to jump?

LoL yup ^^ man u really like goats

[gtr]

This is a serious flaw in PVP, there is absolutely no point in PVP existing if players are allowed to jump consistantly to exploit hit boxes and bullet registration. While I am sure many threads like this already exist, and many kids or skill-less players will object, this has to be done. I propose either implementing diminishing returns, so that jumping within 5 seconds of another jump will make you jump lower and also slow your character down, fire speed, movement speed, or some kind of discouragement. Alternatively completely remove the option to jump at all from PVP maps. I understand this would be difficult for shadow wars, however perfectly plauseable for PVP maps as they are instanced.

The fact that people are able to jump constantly and spam explosives/incendiaries at the ground and think they are clever just annoys the hell out of anyone who actually wants to play properly. Those of us with any FPS experience know bunnyhopping is childish and annoying, many FPS have added a system to prevent it, please add one as well. The PVP system is just a joke until this gets sorted out.

Also, please sort out a bug where perks are removed upon entering a PVP match, or other instanced areas. They may just be removed randomly throughout gameplay, however I have noticed it more during PVP/Co-Op.

I will stop jumping in pvp u can shoot me in the head hope this makes u feel better