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    Why SF and not Defiance?

    I'm curious, why make the game so far away from where the actual action takes place. If I know Syfy, the series will circle around that town while the main characters are put no-escape situations, but by the end of the episode they come out on top... come to think of it, that kinda sums up all the Syfy series that come to mind. And the name of the series is Defiance so I have doubts about it being about SF. Of course, I could be wrong.

    Anyway, I kinda doubt there will be so much focus on SF. Why is that? The only reason I've heard was that players may kill a character in game and be upset at the fact that it's still alive in the series. Are we all 5 years old? Do we not understand how this works? Doubt any sane person will demand you "kill" a character in the series just because he offed him or her in the game world.

    You said you want to hold a certain level of "contact" between the game and the series, but this just seems like a lazy solution. Granted you would have to release many updates to reflect the state of the series in the game world, but this is the endevour you took upon yourselves when you decided to try something like this.

    I hope, that one day, if the game goes well and, especially, if the series go well, you will see fit to open the town of Defiance to players, cause that's the ultimate way for us to actually feel "close" to the series.

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    I am of the opinion they'll tie it in somehow, looks like the ending of the television show hinted at some major events taking place, probably world wide type events, which I think will have an effect on the san Fran area.

    Also characters can travel, looks like helicopters are still around, so it's possible characters from Defiance can visit San Fran, and characters from the game can visit Defiance (I can't place them but aren't Cooper, Van Bach and the dog man similar looking to their voice actors?

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    Imagine if the characters couldn't travel to the game... what would be the point of this "experiment". Truth be thold I want to see how the game affects the series, cause so far, the way the series affect the game - not that impressive... BUT... it's still very early to form an opinion. Remains to be seen.

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    We the players are Ark Hunters. It's natural that we would go to where the Ark Falls give the best chance of rich loot, no? That's in the area around San Francisco. Now, if we were g miners, Defiance would make more sense.
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    I could be wrong, but I think DLC is going to take us across the country towards st louis

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    One of the reasons the Devs stated was that they didn't want players to feel upset when they could do stuff like let the main character die and then watch him appear on the next episode of the show. (Like how you can kill the alliance leaders as horde in WoW)

    this was also so both syfy and trion could do their own thing and not have to collaborate on every little thing (Lets trion focus on the game side, and syfy on the show)

    hope that clears it up some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronan DEx View Post
    I could be wrong, but I think DLC is going to take us across the country towards st louis
    I agree, towards or even in St. Louis/Defiance.

    Right now, Defiance is the big town that everyone wants to go to. You see it on the TV show, it's the town where the main story arc is centered, etc etc. So if Trion put St. Louis in a DLC, a lot of people would probably want to buy it and I wouldn't be surprised if they did just that.

    If I remember correctly, the live stream guys were talking saying that there were some exciting stuff coming up in the next few weeks that they were pretty excited about and that they didn't want to spoil. Now, they could just be trying to build up buzz trying to sell this game like salespeople, or they could be just highly invested Trion workers that are genuinely excited about the crazy stuff coming out in the next few weeks that they can't spoil. Or it can be something that falls in between those two areas.

    We'll see. What I do know is that from what I've seen in the forums and people talking about Trion's other game, Rift, those people that have played RIFT think Trion did a pretty good job with that. So, they've got that one reputation thing going on for them..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronan DEx View Post
    I could be wrong, but I think DLC is going to take us across the country towards st louis
    Towards St Louis may be the right phrase, if you count shifting to Las Vegas from San Francisco as moving TOWARDS St Louis. Las Vegas is a prison colony on an island in the badlands. I suspect we'll be checking it out before we ever see St Louis. Or, we could be checking out the Area around Yuma next. There is a LOT of territory between SF and SL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Nemo View Post

    Anyway, I kinda doubt there will be so much focus on SF. Why is that? The only reason I've heard was that players may kill a character in game and be upset at the fact that it's still alive in the series. Are we all 5 years old? Do we not understand how this works? Doubt any sane person will demand you "kill" a character in the series just because he offed him or her in the game world.
    You've not played many older MMO, have you? Devs learned quite early that if you ever make a key NPC attachable or that happens due to "emergent gameplay", chances are very high that some player or guild/clan will get it in their head to off that NPC.

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    either way, there is alot of dlc, and patches to come out, i have been with a few mmo from the launch date and this looks more promosing to me than wow did when it released.... even if the show ends the game world could continue to live on. and possibly have dlc maps and missions all over the world... but like everyone else i do want to go to defiance. would be a fun way to explore the parts of the town you dont get to see on the show... ect... cant wait to see what they are gonna do with the next few weeks/months... good stuff is to be expected...

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