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  1. #21
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    Ever changing world will not be affected cause those who completed those missions will NEVER see them again once completed, You cant even see them till you get to a certain point in the main storyline, if they are going to remove "Episode" missions cause they arent current events, then they need to throw out the entire Main Storyline cause its not current event till you beat the leader of the Dark Matter in San Fran.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chivaro View Post
    What I do have an issue with is if they start keeping dynamic timed content in the game, as it would defeat the purpose of the game and the evolving world. If something happens in an episode, then any dynamic content should remain timed to link into the next episode.
    The only problem with this statement is that the start of this game from just the MAIN mission alone takes place BEFORE the series does. In fact if you start a new characer now, you STILL see Nolan and Irisa at the starting cutscene. That means they would have to take out the whole main quest, cut out nearly everything for PvE and make it just another PvP shooter with a couple random events from time to time.

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    I don't see why they took the episodic missions out. I think of it this way, some people have to work, travel, etc. Now i took the time to record the show and play the game for only roughly 24hrs but still i don't have a lot of free time.

    So i recorded the show to be able to watch at a later date, then logged in today to find out the episodic missions were removed. I really don't see why this is the case. I'm assuming if they have 1 episodic mission that they are going to have more in the future, just leave it in for those that don't have the time to do both. You could always make episode one have to be finished before episode two, etc.

    So now the story I wanted to see I cannot, this made me log out immediately and come to the forums, i was actually kind of upset. I can hear some of you now, you should have just done it it doesn't take that long or whatever, but the truth is, it should just still be there. If anything its a good way for people to get more back story for the show, and even more so if they don' t even start playing or watching the show for another year.

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    i see leaving it in the same way i see reruns.

    and as far as i know if you buy the show on amazon or w/e you can see the older episodes anytime after they air anyway.


    so yeah it's pretty derpy to remove it, for those reasons alone

    but another thing to consider is look at gw2.

    almost all of the content that has been added to the game since launch was removed shortly after being added. and as such there effectively hasn't been much added to the game on a permanent basis since launch after like nearly 9 months of being out. most servers in the game are now ghost towns aside from full rated servers as a result, with most of the people having moved to those full servers a long time back or guesting on them regularly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceridwyn_Vox View Post
    Again I repeat, what happens to those who can't log in for one reason or the other? What if your console or computer breaks? What if you have to go on vacation, or just lose the internet? What about those who haven't bought the game to wait for the price to lower or waiting for the bugs to be ironed out before buying? They get screwed because of it. Also did you think about when the dlc comes out? What if they release a new race that you want to play? Again, you get screwed out of the content.
    If you can't log in for a specific reason like a problem with your internet or computer that is an understandable reason. Yet if someone wants to do something badly enough they will find a way, they won't make excuses.

    As for those that are waiting for the game for a lower price, that's their loss. Those that invested early are being rewarded for not so much their loyality but their belief in a game from the start.

    The tie-in do not really offer you anything particularly valuable other than an insight into what happens to certain characters at certain points. Costumes maybe, but the weapons that were rewarded are not anything more powerful or noteworthy over other weapons in the game, in fact the purple one damn right was useless compared to other assault rifles. Which is probably a good thing, because if it was any better people would complain even more about the time limited factor of the episodic missions.

    Going back to the costumes, chances are these may make it to the defiance store, so you aren't really missing anything, except to pay for them rather than play for them.

    Again, if someone desires something enough, they will find a way, they don't make nilly willy excuses.
    "There's a single letter difference between winner and whiner, which are you?"

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    The rewards I could care little to nothing about, I care about the content of the missions itself, nothing anyone has to say against this will change my desire to relive these on new characters, or the fact hat new players who join the game wanting to play these missions. This is like saying I bought Borderlands 2 and cant go back to playing Borderlands 1 cause its "Old Content" or "not Current" the point of a free to play game is to be able to play it when I want or able to. those who completed it on their characters already wont be effected cause they cant even see the damn episode missions or any missions the completed already in the firstplace so this wont hinder your gameplay. stop being trollish to people who want to actually enjoy the game and its storyline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dchaser View Post
    You guys might know that there's a Raptr Q&A going on today:
    http://raptr.com/Myll_Erik/news/5168...r-q-a-defiance

    If you search through it (it's a mess), "ennsta" is a verified Trion developer and he's said in a couple of places that since so many people seem against removing content, they might be changing their mind about the whole idea.

    For example, someone asked:

    "I travel a lot as part of my job, and I can go 6-8 weeks or more without having much opportunity to play games. Will there be some way for me to re-visit the old episode content that I've missed while I was away from home? Thanks."

    and Ennsta's reply:

    "Some of it yes but as there have been so many requests to not disable the content, we might simply leave it in. In many cases, it isn't disruptive to leave it in so we might do that."

    So if you're against them removing the content, I suggest you keep letting them know.
    I really hope they decide to do that, because it doesn't cause any harm in the game to keep them in the game.

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    um no... what exactly are you arguing against?

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    Again, if someone desires something enough, they will find a way, they don't make nilly willy excuses.
    This is a video game. It's the thing you do when you're taking a break from doing the stuff important enough to talk about "doing it and not making excuses". It's not a job. There's no meaning to any of it, it's just entertainment. Just like the series, you'll be able to play it when you want or have time later on down the road; the series airs, and you can watch any of the episodes ever, whenever. Heck, most of my favorite shows I never saw when they were actually on TV just because of my work hours.

    There are other ways to add in time sensitive events that give incentive to log in and play. Taking out the quests that add context to a story that you'll still be able to experience well after it has aired in the show is not a good idea and is not fair to everyone playing. Even if I created a new character, I couldn't go back and do them again just to say "oh, hey, I remember seeing that in the show."

    A system is already in place in the game to unlock quests as you progress, just make the next episodic quests unlock sequentially like they do with the main story. Let people experience the story as it ties in to the series in their own time since they can experience the series in their own time the same exact way, not just limiting it to when it first airs.

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    It's really silly to make content only to have it removed within a week, now i understand they provide adequate time to do these missions but i rather the content persist instead of being removed. It doesn't negatively impact the show or game if it remained and progressed as a quest line like the main story mission, it be positive to have more content actually.

    Imagine for instance the poor folks who see episode 1/2 and wanna pick up the game but the missed a bunch of enjoyable missions because they didn't immediately buy the game. Now those people who got hooked from the show miss important backstory, etc. involved with the show which is why they even picked up the game in the first place.
    Don't be insulted because i don't wanna explain myself, i was probably joking anyway.

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