Someone will always complain no matter what you do. You could make Jesus appear and make everyone immortal and someone would STILL complain. Defending anything on the internet is a waste of energy.Originally Posted by Zewks
Someone will always complain no matter what you do. You could make Jesus appear and make everyone immortal and someone would STILL complain. Defending anything on the internet is a waste of energy.
Strange, I find it more confusing why people who profess to hate a game to post on that game's forum (and continue to do so) then it is for someone who really enjoys the game to be doing so.
And for the same exact reasons, people will bash something if it isnt working right.
Sorry, I thought I did define it when I said "a certain percentage of any gaming community that is steadfast(and in most cases, actually hostile and aggressive) in its defense/protection of said game, no matter the level, intensity or number of problems it actually has".
It appears you have the "hostile and aggressive" part down....I'm not inaccurately whining about anything. As I said, I'm not trying to disrespect anyone, just trying to actually learn something.
People bring up the bad parts of a game because they hope it gets noticed, and fixed/improved.
Being silent about a problem never fixed anything. The forums are one of many ways to be vocal. They may not be the best, but often times they make the most noise.
Where as people defending a game... seek to what? Keep it from not being fixed? THAT is something I dont understand.
We all (hopefully) paid for the game. We all want to have fun playing it. Those bringing up its flaws hope to get the game improved, those who are fanbois seem to not care if it gets better, being satisfied with the least amount of potential that a game, from someone like Trion, is capable of putting out.
I'm the opposite, I work as Business Analyst designing information systems for small to medium businesses and I feel like game developers should be held much more accountable for releasing buggy products. If my team developed a system that didn't work as promised we could possibly get sued but at the very least our reputations would be shot to hell. Game developers don't realize how lucky they are to have such a forgiving customer base, because in my experience customers demand results and if you can't/don't deliver you don't eat.
A fine example of a fellow player just wanting to see parts of the game get fixed and isn't hating or trolling at all:
http://forums.defiance.com/showthrea...ame-just-sucks
Without these fine people we'd never see any improvement in the game, as Trion wasn't smart enough to put in an ingame reporting system or anything like that where we could report problems found.
So anyone who doesn't agree with your negative views then, got it. It's incredibly amusing to troll people who rage on a forum for a GAME as if that was the most important thing in life. I also only do it to kill time at work. It's incredibly easy as well because in most cases, the negativity is over a minor inconvenience blown completely and utterly out of proportions.
In short, for lulz.
It all comes down to a difference of opinion. Some people believe as you do, and some don't. I think that what they've done already justifies the price tag. Sure, there are problems. Every game has them. But truthfully, I've spent more time in Defiance doing various things than I have in any other shooter for well... years really.
I agree with sentiments like this to a degree. What people also need to realize is that as a developer, many times it's impossible to locate all the bugs right away. Part of that problem might be because enough testing isn't done on the developers side, but what many people overlook is the beta process.I work as Business Analyst designing information systems for small to medium businesses and I feel like game developers should be held much more accountable for releasing buggy products.
Inviting actual players into beta testing is to help test load, and hopefully find bugs. What we're seeing more and more though are people applying to "test" a game by treating it as a demo. They don't test, and they don't submit bug reports. These people are also the first to complain that said bug has been in the game since beta.
Amazingly, another awesome example of a player wanting nothing more then to improve the game popped up while I typing the last reply!
"Never before have I had to take time away from playing a game to write a post this big about how much it is doing my head in.
WE ARE PAYING YOUR WAGES, GET A GRIP!
Today I watched a live stream of a Trion employee playing the game and having the time of his life, makes my blood boil knowing i've paid for this.
A perfect example of how a dev team should be is Path of Exile.
18 ****ING people update this game with meaningful content, frequently.
18 people outdo you in every way possbile, and the hilarious thing is, Path of Exile is free..
Pull your finger out Trion...Stop updating the game with outfits and purchasable crap and start changing this game for the better.
Are you no better than the other money grabbing, idiotic, ignorant developers out there?
We shall see... "
I can see how this will help Trion address the issue presented by the poster.
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