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    Senior Member Ensu's Avatar
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    I didn't use a flashbang at all on this playthrough (just finished the sidemissions and final mission today).

    So I'm not sure why you think you need one.

    Which mission are you on? Maybe we'll be able to suggest another method of completing it.

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    must say i really love the flashbangs, its nothing thats more fun then finding a large group throw one in and go crazy with a submachine gun, when your close to dying pop the stealth behind some cover and kill of the few stragglers ^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tilarta View Post
    According to the notes on this freaking annoying mission I'm stuck on (it's a main mission), you need a flashbang to pass it.
    You don't need flashbangs to complete any of the missions. I've done them all and have never even equipped one before.

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    I always seem to get them from Arkfalls or CO OP maps after completion.
    In fact I always vendor them. I prefer the ones that surge for the stunning effect. Blinding is mostly only useful in PvP.

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    short answer is that there isn't a vendor option. arcfalls are usually green or blue, but really that's a couple points difference, like everything else you sacrifice a goat to the RNG gods and hope for the best. stay flexible, if you set your heart on that one special drop you're never going to see it.

    I'm interested in what the mission is as well, i haven't run down everything since launch, but there was nothing in earlier builds that forced a specific weapon or damage type on you for missions.

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    If you find you need them, look me up in game.. I'm CONSTANTLY trashing the things out of inventory, either for resources or scrip. I get them ALL the time, it's like their sniffing my scent or something..lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tilarta View Post
    Effiency.

    Who's stupid idea was it to make the grenades damage the person who throws them?

    Also, I don't have any of these "allegiance points" the vendors refers to.
    I don't even know where to get them.
    1) you're playing a random loot game... "efficiency" is best had by mass slaughter, thus, arkfalls. you may not like it, but some times ya gotta grin and bear it.

    2) uhm.. you mean being hurt by an explosion you caused is new to you? it's been around since Doom 1, on pc. other than it's realistic, it also gives you an option of suiciding yourself if you get stuck inside a piece of terrain (there's no equivalent to /stuck in defiance).

    3) daily / repeatable quest rewards associated with that vendor. dunno if you can get them from other sources yet, though.

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    I never ran into a main mission that needed a flashbang, but I absolutely got one as a reward from a Main Mission.

    I've been getting them as drops a decent amount since passing 250 ego too. My favorite type of grenade currently.

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    I often just find them off regular mobs but major arkfalls tend to spam nades as rewards. I got some purple flashbangs i'll never use but holding on to trade or sell for something someday got em from am major arkfall.

    Also along with everyone else here i've never come across a mission that requires a specific type of weapon without providing it such as the sniper challenges, etc.
    Don't be insulted because i don't wanna explain myself, i was probably joking anyway.

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    I won't name the mission, because I'm getting irritated with the pros saying "it's easy, we beat it on first try".

    But suffice it to say, it makes this mission easier if you throw a flashbang at a specific enemy, it sets them on fire (I think their weapon backfires), which is the goal of the mission.
    I don't know from practical experience, not ever having a flashbang to try it with!


    I've only played two games that use a grenade mechanic (Mass Effect and Borderlands).
    And to the best of my knowledge, throwing a grenade at your feet doesn't harm you.

    This is especially true in Borderlands, since you throw a "fountain grenade" at your feet and it harms everything except friendlies!

    But since Defiance grenades harm you, I can only throw them at range, when I'm certain I won't be caught in the explosion.

    And since said mission has the enemy charging at you from pointblank range in a small room (which you are locked in, so you can't leave), tossing a fire grenade in the general area is a recipe for death!
    I only have a firegrenade, that's all I've got.

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