ign gives the game a 5.9? are you kidding me...

[Gohlar]

The problem is defiance carries around the tag MMO. And MMO has standards. Defiance is missing those standards.

This is a good point. The thing is to even put mmo on the box you need compelling group content. Defiance has none.

[JMadFour]

Defiance is a solid 7.

I would agree with this, from my experience.

it's a 7, with 9 potential.

that said, Professional game reviews, from any site/magazine, and regardless of how high or low, mean nothing to me anymore, and haven't for a long time.

I trust Demos, my Friends/Clan list, Player Ratings (from Gamefly, Raptr, Metacritic etc.). In that order.

[hardy83]

Interesting. I did find GW2's story very forgettable as well and I really enjoyed the 1st game. I guess I'll take a look at your links.

If you're going to look at anything look at
http://defiancenews.tumblr.com/post/...rby-a-survivor
It's the fake news thing I mentioned, but it's a "journal" of someone who was AT the battle for Defiance. It explains a lot about the game, the actual event and the Nolan, Torq and Jon Cooper characters.

Also get all the data recorders. :P

And yeah. GW2 story was a bit forgettable, but the sad truth is, the actual world is more interesting than the game makes you believe.

[Gohlar]

If you're going to look at anything look at
http://defiancenews.tumblr.com/post/...rby-a-survivor
It's the fake news thing I mentioned, but it's a "journal" of someone who was AT the battle for Defiance. It explains a lot about the game, the actual event and the Nolan, Torq and Jon Cooper characters.

Ok thanks.

[Hycinthus]

This is a good point. The thing is to even put mmo on the box you need compelling group content. Defiance has none.

And MMO standards are rough and tough these days with the MMO market being saturated. We all know what happened when FFXIV released with horrible UI and non existent content and copy paste environment, that failure of an MMO is single handedly bringing square enix down.

[Arsenic_Touch]

It's definitely a 7 right now. Putting in a global chat permanent resizable chat would bump it up to 7.5, city hubs would bump it up to 8. Better loot would bump it up to an 8.5. (better loot such as a more clear progression curve, synergy mods actually drop as loot and not found by pure RNG, unique weapons from bosses, a crafting system that goes beyond adding mods to weapons that you're going to trash soon anyway. Borderlands 2's badass endless level system would've worked perfect here.

[Xyr3s]

i give it a 6 or a 7. id give swtor a 8, wow a 9 and gw2 a 10 xD but that's just me

[Smoky]

I think that's a fair score. I've had fun with the game, but to say there aren't any problems is just silly. I'm sure Trion will work it out (I played Rift for about a year and a half) so I have faith it will get better.

[Mivo]

i give it a 6 or a 7. id give swtor a 8, wow a 9 and gw2 a 10 xD but that's just me

WoW kept me trapped in a love/hate relationship for over seven years, but yes, I'd probably also give it a 9/10, though I'm glad I broke the habit. TOR, eh, I got bored before I had even used up my free time that came with the game. GW2, I got bored of after less than 30 hours. It was just more of the same.

I'd only give three games a 10/10: Ultima Online the way it was in 1997, Diablo 2, an Borderlands 2. Been sixteen years and I STILL miss UO.

[Digital Soulja]

Hmmm, a bit overly harsh imo. The game obviously has problems but its still a lot of fun.

GameSpot's review was better, they gave it a 6.5. I really liked how they summed it up:

"Defiance is the B movie of massively multiplayer games: rickety and unrefined, yet a good time all the same."